FVU vs SYC-2 or ASA 2

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's possible for a club to have the same level of coach, in effectiveness and experience, for every team in their club. Choices have to be made in the assignments. And often the coaches themselves choose what clubs and teams they lead. An experienced and effective coach will want to coach the top level teams.

You mean the coach who wants to win for ego and ladder climbing sake wants to coach the top level team.

Oh. I haven't seen that in a technical director's bio, but I'm sure you're right. You're definitely sure you're right.

Right. Yes. It's a job.

Development of players as a Youth Coach isn't a job/career?

Sure it is. One that includes the desire to move up, or as you called it, ladder climbing. How do you think coaches should be measured? What sorts of promotions should they look for? Technical director, maybe? What do they point to to get those jobs? What sorts of metrics would they use to get a raise?

In real youth coaching, you show you can take the bad-news-bears and make them into better players/team

Oh, I haven't seen that is a technical director's bio. I'm sure you're right though.

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You sound like someone who's been stuck as a second team player for eternity. Shop around other clubs, I'm sure your player will get the same offer.

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Anonymous wrote:FVU. Avoid Alexandria’s second teams at l cost.

Why?

Because they are treated like second class citizens. They don’t practice with the top team, get the bad coaches, don’t play up- it is the worst I have ever seen. And Alexandria players who are on the top team stay there for eternity so even when others are better- they never lose their top team spot.

[Anonymous]

This is not true. Future players are suppose to be training with the first AND second team (their team) but because they think they are better than everyone on the second team they do not train with second team.

They just picked up a new keeper for the second team. He only trains with the first team and he does not every go to second team practices.

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Anonymous wrote:FVU. Avoid Alexandria’s second teams at l cost.

Why?

Because they are treated like second class citizens. They don’t practice with the top team, get the bad coaches, don’t play up- it is the worst I have ever seen. And Alexandria players who are on the top team stay there for eternity so even when others are better- they never lose their top team spot.

hmmm. I don't know anything specific to this age group, but it isn't totally true of the age groups I'm familiar with. MLSN allows 4 players, or maybe even more, to be designated as "futures" so they can be dual rostered. They play and train with the first and second team, but I think train mostly with the top team. In our age group they regularly play matches with the MLS Next team, but there's a cap on how many. I know at least one kid was permanently rostered with the top team after starting as a "future.". My son's team also regularly scrimmages with the second team on days when practices overlap. Would you expect them to train together always? Shouldn't the club put their best coaches on the highest level teams?

Is this in Alexandria?

Yes. I'm guessing it's similar at other MLSN teams but don't know.

[Anonymous]

Top team coaches are paid more and has more leverage, well only the rotten ones will take advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:FVU. Avoid Alexandria’s second teams at l cost.

Why?

Because they are treated like second class citizens. They don’t practice with the top team, get the bad coaches, don’t play up- it is the worst I have ever seen. And Alexandria players who are on the top team stay there for eternity so even when others are better- they never lose their top team spot.

Why would coaches/clubs not want their top team to have the best players from their available pool?

That's irrational and illogical from every angle.

They must be the only coaches/club without egos.

Its a business. They want to maximize the number of teams and number of paying customers. They don't really care if Larlo on Team 3 is just as good as Larlden on Team 2.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not true. Future players are suppose to be training with the first AND second team (their team) but because they think they are better than everyone on the second team they do not train with second team.

They just picked up a new keeper for the second team. He only trains with the first team and he does not every go to second team practices.

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Anonymous wrote:FVU. Avoid Alexandria’s second teams at l cost.

I'm just gonna assume the kid isn't allowed to practice where he wants. So you need to pick your fight with the coaches who want him training with the 1st team only.

Why?

Because they are treated like second class citizens. They don’t practice with the top team, get the bad coaches, don’t play up- it is the worst I have ever seen. And Alexandria players who are on the top team stay there for eternity so even when others are better- they never lose their top team spot.

hmmm. I don't know anything specific to this age group, but it isn't totally true of the age groups I'm familiar with. MLSN allows 4 players, or maybe even more, to be designated as "futures" so they can be dual rostered. They play and train with the first and second team, but I think train mostly with the top team. In our age group they regularly play matches with the MLS Next team, but there's a cap on how many. I know at least one kid was permanently rostered with the top team after starting as a "future.". My son's team also regularly scrimmages with the second team on days when practices overlap. Would you expect them to train together always? Shouldn't the club put their best coaches on the highest level teams?

Is this in Alexandria?

Yes. I'm guessing it's similar at other MLSN teams but don't know.

[Anonymous]

At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

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SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

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Anonymous wrote:SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

It's rough for the players who got dropped. At the MLSN and ECNL level, we should be seeing players dropped and promoted. I respect SYC for doing that. It tells me that no one is entitled to a permanent position on the top team, regardless who your mom/dad is and what connection your family has. Players are going to have to earn the spot and keep working to retain the spot as it should be.

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Anonymous wrote:SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

It's rough for the players who got dropped. At the MLSN and ECNL level, we should be seeing players dropped and promoted. I respect SYC for doing that. It tells me that no one is entitled to a permanent position on the top team, regardless who your mom/dad is and what connection your family has. Players are going to have to earn the spot and keep working to retain the spot as it should be.

The comment mentioned promoted.
Where is the part about kids getting dropped?

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Anonymous wrote:SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

It's rough for the players who got dropped. At the MLSN and ECNL level, we should be seeing players dropped and promoted. I respect SYC for doing that. It tells me that no one is entitled to a permanent position on the top team, regardless who your mom/dad is and what connection your family has. Players are going to have to earn the spot and keep working to retain the spot as it should be.

The comment mentioned promoted.
Where is the part about kids getting dropped?

Roster are generally pretty full, there's no way to be promoted/added unless spots free up somehow. Too many kids mean less playing time was well.

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Anonymous wrote:SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

It's rough for the players who got dropped. At the MLSN and ECNL level, we should be seeing players dropped and promoted. I respect SYC for doing that. It tells me that no one is entitled to a permanent position on the top team, regardless who your mom/dad is and what connection your family has. Players are going to have to earn the spot and keep working to retain the spot as it should be.

The comment mentioned promoted.
Where is the part about kids getting dropped?

Roster are generally pretty full, there's no way to be promoted/added unless spots free up somehow. Too many kids mean less playing time was well.

I'd think there are several other reasons for spaces opening up.
Kids leaving on their own for one

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Anonymous wrote:SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

It's rough for the players who got dropped. At the MLSN and ECNL level, we should be seeing players dropped and promoted. I respect SYC for doing that. It tells me that no one is entitled to a permanent position on the top team, regardless who your mom/dad is and what connection your family has. Players are going to have to earn the spot and keep working to retain the spot as it should be.

The comment mentioned promoted.
Where is the part about kids getting dropped?

Roster are generally pretty full, there's no way to be promoted/added unless spots free up somehow. Too many kids mean less playing time was well.

I'd think there are several other reasons for spaces opening up.
Kids leaving on their own for one

And kids getting offers from MLS Academies.

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SYC is not going it for the sake of the kids. The players that got moved to the first team went from playing 90% of the game to 25% at most.
Player movement should be at the beginning of the new season to lessen any disruption to the team.

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Anonymous wrote:SYC promoted two players. This was during winter break.

Anonymous wrote:At SYC and ASA are there any families here where a 2nd team player did get promoted up to the MLS Next team within a year or 2?

It's rough for the players who got dropped. At the MLSN and ECNL level, we should be seeing players dropped and promoted. I respect SYC for doing that. It tells me that no one is entitled to a permanent position on the top team, regardless who your mom/dad is and what connection your family has. Players are going to have to earn the spot and keep working to retain the spot as it should be.

[Anonymous]

You should be looking at which second team has the best coach so your kid can make the top team. All second teams are what they are. Second teams. It comes down to which second team has the best coach

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Anonymous wrote:You should be looking at which second team has the best coach so your kid can make the top team. All second teams are what they are. Second teams. It comes down to which second team has the best coach

Sounds like most comments are suggesting to go with 2nd team ASA or SYC?
In my experience it’s always better to be in the 1st team. You get the most experienced coaches and the more priority within the club.