MCPS elementary, middle school students could get less homework under proposed policy update - How is this OK?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New studies show that homework at earlier grades does not help learning. We didn’t ever do the homework until grade 4 anyway.

Wait! You're citing studies? Careful, or next you'll be supporting later start times for HS kids!

Ha ha! Montgomery County is supposed to be full of educated professionals but parents only seem to believe research studies that agree with their opinion

Exactly. Well said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Worksheets do not create create thinkers.
Elem kids do not need homework.
I do feel differently about MS and HS

I agree with this, except for math. There’s no way kids are getting good at multiplication and division without practice at home.

I like worksheets as its practice. Kids don't get the basics in school. MCPS doesn't teach math facts. They teach dumb strategies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Learn some personal responsibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Public school students run rings around private school students in math.

One example:

https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/f/613/files/2023/12/2023-Winners.pdf

[Anonymous]

How is this a bad thing? It's not saying no homework, just less of it. This is a good thing for ES and MS kids, let them be kids. If you want kids to have alot of homework that can be high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Public school students run rings around private school students in math.

One example:

https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/f/613/files/2023/12/2023-Winners.pdf

There will always be a tiny select group of exceptional students, but by and large, students performance in public schools is mediocre at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Worksheets do not create create thinkers.
Elem kids do not need homework.
I do feel differently about MS and HS

I agree with this, except for math. There’s no way kids are getting good at multiplication and division without practice at home.

I like worksheets as its practice. Kids don't get the basics in school. MCPS doesn't teach math facts. They teach dumb strategies.

I’m curious as to how you believe math facts should be taught at the elementary level. Rote memorization is good for things like memorizing formulas, but most young learners will have a greater understanding of computation and content by building their number sense and learning different strategies to use when problem solving. Straight up memorization doesn’t encourage thinking. I could memorize anything when I was in school and that carried me far in math until I got to calculus and needed to do more than just memorize things. If you don’t have a solid understanding of something, you have a hard time applying skills and concepts to a novel problem or situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Worksheets do not create create thinkers.
Elem kids do not need homework.
I do feel differently about MS and HS

I agree with this, except for math. There’s no way kids are getting good at multiplication and division without practice at home.

I like worksheets as its practice. Kids don't get the basics in school. MCPS doesn't teach math facts. They teach dumb strategies.

I’m curious as to how you believe math facts should be taught at the elementary level. Rote memorization is good for things like memorizing formulas, but most young learners will have a greater understanding of computation and content by building their number sense and learning different strategies to use when problem solving. Straight up memorization doesn’t encourage thinking. I could memorize anything when I was in school and that carried me far in math until I got to calculus and needed to do more than just memorize things. If you don’t have a solid understanding of something, you have a hard time applying skills and concepts to a novel problem or situation.

Multiplication is not a difficult concept to understand. If you haven’t memorized math facts it takes up working memory a student should be using when solving more challenging problems.

Years ago I taught third grade in a very poor community where the most of the parents didn’t speak English and only spoke Spanish. Math homework was memorizing multiplication. Every day before lunch there was a multiplication test on whatever number the student was working on. So if the student was working on multiplication of 4’s their quiz was on 4’s, another student might be working on 6’s. I graded the quiz at lunch and if they passed they moved onto the next number and got 100 multiplication problems of that number for homework. If they didn’t pass they stayed working on that problem and got 100 problems of that number. Some kids got the same 100 problems for days and days. Some kids quickly moved through to division then reducing fractions.

All the parents loved this homework. They all knew what was expected and saw the benefit. They had no trouble helping their kids if they wanted to but if they didn’t or couldn’t my students could independently do their homework. By the end of the year every student had thoroughly memorized their multiplication tables except some years I might have one student who had special needs who couldn’t so I modified the work.

So many parents asked me why their older siblings weren’t given the same chance to memorize their times tables and often asked for extra sheets. A parent of twins kept asking the school to move her other child to my class.

Research has shown math homework in elementary school is indeed effective. Not giving students who are poor homework that works on basic skills is the opposite of equity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Hold on. Let me see if I get this right.
You don't even have kids in MCPS but you're starting threads in the MCPS forum, crearing hysteria, complaining about stuff that doesn't even affect you?
My goodness! The trolling in the MCPS forum is beyond belief. That is why folks, you shouldn't believe 90% of the stuff posted here. It's mostly right wingers and private schools parents trying to cause chaos, havoc, and spreading fear and misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Worksheets do not create create thinkers.
Elem kids do not need homework.
I do feel differently about MS and HS

I agree with this, except for math. There’s no way kids are getting good at multiplication and division without practice at home.

I like worksheets as its practice. Kids don't get the basics in school. MCPS doesn't teach math facts. They teach dumb strategies.

I’m curious as to how you believe math facts should be taught at the elementary level. Rote memorization is good for things like memorizing formulas, but most young learners will have a greater understanding of computation and content by building their number sense and learning different strategies to use when problem solving. Straight up memorization doesn’t encourage thinking. I could memorize anything when I was in school and that carried me far in math until I got to calculus and needed to do more than just memorize things. If you don’t have a solid understanding of something, you have a hard time applying skills and concepts to a novel problem or situation.

Multiplication is not a difficult concept to understand. If you haven’t memorized math facts it takes up working memory a student should be using when solving more challenging problems.

Years ago I taught third grade in a very poor community where the most of the parents didn’t speak English and only spoke Spanish. Math homework was memorizing multiplication. Every day before lunch there was a multiplication test on whatever number the student was working on. So if the student was working on multiplication of 4’s their quiz was on 4’s, another student might be working on 6’s. I graded the quiz at lunch and if they passed they moved onto the next number and got 100 multiplication problems of that number for homework. If they didn’t pass they stayed working on that problem and got 100 problems of that number. Some kids got the same 100 problems for days and days. Some kids quickly moved through to division then reducing fractions.

All the parents loved this homework. They all knew what was expected and saw the benefit. They had no trouble helping their kids if they wanted to but if they didn’t or couldn’t my students could independently do their homework. By the end of the year every student had thoroughly memorized their multiplication tables except some years I might have one student who had special needs who couldn’t so I modified the work.

So many parents asked me why their older siblings weren’t given the same chance to memorize their times tables and often asked for extra sheets. A parent of twins kept asking the school to move her other child to my class.

Research has shown math homework in elementary school is indeed effective. Not giving students who are poor homework that works on basic skills is the opposite of equity.

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Public school students run rings around private school students in math.

One example:

https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/f/613/files/2023/12/2023-Winners.pdf

There will always be a tiny select group of exceptional students, but by and large, students performance in public schools is mediocre at best.

I guess there is not even a tiny select group of exceptional private schools students because they barely if even register on the STEM radar.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Public school students run rings around private school students in math.

One example:

https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/f/613/files/2023/12/2023-Winners.pdf

There will always be a tiny select group of exceptional students, but by and large, students performance in public schools is mediocre at best.

I guess there is not even a tiny select group of exceptional private schools students because they barely if even register on the STEM radar.
DP

Clearly you don’t know is where to look. Plus look at college matriculations!! 25% or more heading to top 25 universities out of many private high schools vs 5% out of the top W schools. Quite stark difference in outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Public school students run rings around private school students in math.

One example:

https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/f/613/files/2023/12/2023-Winners.pdf

There will always be a tiny select group of exceptional students, but by and large, students performance in public schools is mediocre at best.

I guess there is not even a tiny select group of exceptional private schools students because they barely if even register on the STEM radar.
DP

Clearly you don’t know is where to look. Plus look at college matriculations!! 25% or more heading to top 25 universities out of many private high schools vs 5% out of the top W schools. Quite stark difference in outcomes.

Clearly you're not bright. You could not even show proofs in the private schools forum and now you want to bring your ignorant a$$ here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homework obviously didn't teach OP how to think.

Why does a parent need a school to assign homework?! You are the PARENT. If you want you to do more homework, assign it.

But I don't think a parent is involved at all. This smells like a thinly veiled cookie cutter talking point slogan thet certain groups repeat ad nauseum in response to all news without regard to the actual issue at hand. It doesn't work because you already have all the morons in your camp, and the rest of us see through you.

This is OP. As a parent, I am supposed to assign homework? LOL

I have had kids in both MCPS and private. When my youngest was in private elementary school, she had homework every night. Mostly math and reading and also studying for spelling tests. The math is the most time consuming, as it should be. Math is an important subject that requires practice. The short amount of time spent in school on math is not enough for a student to master it. Now MCPS teachers want parents to assign the math homework. I guess public schools are self service institutions now. This is one of the many reasons I pulled my kids out of MCPS and so glad I did.

Public school students run rings around private school students in math.

One example:

https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/blog.umd.edu/dist/f/613/files/2023/12/2023-Winners.pdf

There will always be a tiny select group of exceptional students, but by and large, students performance in public schools is mediocre at best.

I guess there is not even a tiny select group of exceptional private schools students because they barely if even register on the STEM radar.
DP

Clearly you don’t know is where to look. Plus look at college matriculations!! 25% or more heading to top 25 universities out of many private high schools vs 5% out of the top W schools. Quite stark difference in outcomes.

Clearly you're not bright. You could not even show proofs in the private schools forum and now you want to bring your ignorant a$$ here.

It has been proven. Pay attention.