Teacher is failing or all kids?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy



Teachers work contracted hours. They aren't required to stay after school. All of the teachers I work with have after school jobs.


FCPS has teachers who use no textbooks, make no materials available online, will not help kids after school, play favorites, and wait until they end of a quarter to let kids and parents know kids are struggling. It’s a HUGE quality control problem and, while most teachers who behave like this get weeded out EVENTUALLY, they ruin school for some kids.

But please carry on with your script about how teachers need only do the minimum.


It sounds like you are assuming that teachers make these decisions. They don’t. I have an after school job to be able to pay my bills. If someone wants to pay me the same hourly rate or more, I’ll gladly stay after to work with students who need help. My friend offers this a few days each week and nobody shows up.


What I would like is my tax dollars back to find a better school system. Not to pay you more to maybe or maybe not do what the schools should be doing.
Anonymous
You can always home school. Then your kids will be 100% your responsibility.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?


Another HS teacher. This is spot on except that a lot of our students don't even bother copying HW and turn nothing in.
But don't worry OP, somehow the school will find a way to make most students pass, whether they know anything or not. It's way too difficult and time consuming for the teacher to fail them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy


Teachers work contracted hours. They aren't required to stay after school. All of the teachers I work with have after school jobs.


FCPS has teachers who use no textbooks, make no materials available online, will not help kids after school, play favorites, and wait until they end of a quarter to let kids and parents know kids are struggling. It’s a HUGE quality control problem and, while most teachers who behave like this get weeded out EVENTUALLY, they ruin school for some kids.

But please carry on with your script about how teachers need only do the minimum.


It sounds like you are assuming that teachers make these decisions. They don’t. I have an after school job to be able to pay my bills. If someone wants to pay me the same hourly rate or more, I’ll gladly stay after to work with students who need help. My friend offers this a few days each week and nobody shows up.


What I would like is my tax dollars back to find a better school system. Not to pay you more to maybe or maybe not do what the schools should be doing.


You can always find that better school system and then move there. We’ll even help you pack.
Anonymous
I JUST Request FOIA request on grades for MCCLEAN HIGH School if hey are more than 10F we will find out.......
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?


Another HS teacher. This is spot on except that a lot of our students don't even bother copying HW and turn nothing in.
But don't worry OP, somehow the school will find a way to make most students pass, whether they know anything or not. It's way too difficult and time consuming for the teacher to fail them.




HS teacher- 100%...
Like when I graduated high school in 2006, we used to copy homework, but at least we copied it, kids now days don't even do that..........
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.

How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?


Another HS teacher. This is spot on except that a lot of our students don't even bother copying HW and turn nothing in.
But don't worry OP, somehow the school will find a way to make most students pass, whether they know anything or not. It's way too difficult and time consuming for the teacher to fail them.


HS teacher- 100%...
Like when I graduated high school in 2006, we used to copy homework, but at least we copied it, kids now days don't even do that..........


LOL!!!!! Sometimes when I tutor, I’ll give them the answer after working on it together and they won’t even write the answer down. This generation… oh my.
Anonymous
FCPS teachers are usually unresponsive, because they assume you are obsessively checking the parent portal for your kid's grades. FCPS also assumes every kid has three tutors outside school, and their job is merely to assign the work and the kids can ask their tutors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If HS Honor class average grad for test back to back below 40%.
Teacher not replying back to parents.



Email /call the principal.
Anonymous
Is this a subject like math, physics or chem?

My kid and I were just having a convo about this. The grades in these classes seem to be split between fairly high grades/mastery and very low grades (like 30-50% of kids getting As or high Bs, and 50%-70% of the kids struggling) These are smart kids in upper level classes.

My kid observed that many of the struggling kids got As in their foundational math classes such as algebra 1 & 2 during 8th/9th/10th covid and virtual school, but were openly cheating in all their virtual math classes. They got As in the foundational classes, but never learned the material. Now they are genuinely struggling in the upper level classes that require the 8th-10th grade math. They are also being affected by the return to a normal grading/homework policy.

My kid said their teachers are quite good, but a big segment of kids don't know how to approach problem solving the correct way because they never learned algebra, in spite of getting As in the classes during covid and virtual school.

Perhaps something similar is happening in your kid's class? Are many students hitting the wall from not learning properly or cheating to As during covid?

Algebra 1 & 2 mastery and understanding is fairly important for success in higher level math and science classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this a subject like math, physics or chem?

My kid and I were just having a convo about this. The grades in these classes seem to be split between fairly high grades/mastery and very low grades (like 30-50% of kids getting As or high Bs, and 50%-70% of the kids struggling) These are smart kids in upper level classes.

My kid observed that many of the struggling kids got As in their foundational math classes such as algebra 1 & 2 during 8th/9th/10th covid and virtual school, but were openly cheating in all their virtual math classes. They got As in the foundational classes, but never learned the material. Now they are genuinely struggling in the upper level classes that require the 8th-10th grade math. They are also being affected by the return to a normal grading/homework policy.

My kid said their teachers are quite good, but a big segment of kids don't know how to approach problem solving the correct way because they never learned algebra, in spite of getting As in the classes during covid and virtual school.

Perhaps something similar is happening in your kid's class? Are many students hitting the wall from not learning properly or cheating to As during covid?

Algebra 1 & 2 mastery and understanding is fairly important for success in higher level math and science classes.


I wish all parents were this intelligent.
~AP Math teacher
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is this a subject like math, physics or chem?

My kid and I were just having a convo about this. The grades in these classes seem to be split between fairly high grades/mastery and very low grades (like 30-50% of kids getting As or high Bs, and 50%-70% of the kids struggling) These are smart kids in upper level classes.

My kid observed that many of the struggling kids got As in their foundational math classes such as algebra 1 & 2 during 8th/9th/10th covid and virtual school, but were openly cheating in all their virtual math classes. They got As in the foundational classes, but never learned the material. Now they are genuinely struggling in the upper level classes that require the 8th-10th grade math. They are also being affected by the return to a normal grading/homework policy.

My kid said their teachers are quite good, but a big segment of kids don't know how to approach problem solving the correct way because they never learned algebra, in spite of getting As in the classes during covid and virtual school.

Perhaps something similar is happening in your kid's class? Are many students hitting the wall from not learning properly or cheating to As during covid?

Algebra 1 & 2 mastery and understanding is fairly important for success in higher level math and science classes.


I wish all parents were this intelligent.
~AP Math teacher


I agree -IB math teacher
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy



Teachers work contracted hours. They aren't required to stay after school. All of the teachers I work with have after school jobs.


FCPS has teachers who use no textbooks, make no materials available online, will not help kids after school, play favorites, and wait until they end of a quarter to let kids and parents know kids are struggling. It’s a HUGE quality control problem and, while most teachers who behave like this get weeded out EVENTUALLY, they ruin school for some kids.

But please carry on with your script about how teachers need only do the minimum.


It sounds like you are assuming that teachers make these decisions. They don’t. I have an after school job to be able to pay my bills. If someone wants to pay me the same hourly rate or more, I’ll gladly stay after to work with students who need help. My friend offers this a few days each week and nobody shows up.


What I would like is my tax dollars back to find a better school system. Not to pay you more to maybe or maybe not do what the schools should be doing.


No one cares what you want and I mean NO ONE!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy



Teachers work contracted hours. They aren't required to stay after school. All of the teachers I work with have after school jobs.


FCPS has teachers who use no textbooks, make no materials available online, will not help kids after school, play favorites, and wait until they end of a quarter to let kids and parents know kids are struggling. It’s a HUGE quality control problem and, while most teachers who behave like this get weeded out EVENTUALLY, they ruin school for some kids.

But please carry on with your script about how teachers need only do the minimum.


You should go private and stop your whining.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I JUST Request FOIA request on grades for MCCLEAN HIGH School if hey are more than 10F we will find out.......


Ooooo scary
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