Teacher is failing or all kids?

[Anonymous]

Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If HS Honor class average grad for test back to back below 40%.
Teacher not replying back to parents.

Are they always on their phone?

Its been 5 days .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy

Teachers work contracted hours. They aren't required to stay after school. All of the teachers I work with have after school jobs.

FCPS has teachers who use no textbooks, make no materials available online, will not help kids after school, play favorites, and wait until they end of a quarter to let kids and parents know kids are struggling. It’s a HUGE quality control problem and, while most teachers who behave like this get weeded out EVENTUALLY, they ruin school for some kids.

But please carry on with your script about how teachers need only do the minimum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

You ought to be more concerned with the majority of kids failing than the handful who cracked your code.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you know the average grade? Did the teacher tell students what the average was? If not, your child may be sharing information with a few peers who scored as badly and concluding that the average is below 40%.

Second, honors doesn't mean much. It's open enrollment and anybody can take anything. So plenty of kids who don't work in Hnrs.

Third, depending on the class, many of the kids may be woefully unprepared. For instance, if it's an early high school class with prereqs and the middle school gave out A's like candy to students who know nothing, because it gets to pass the buck and let others deal with the consequences.

Or it could indeed be the teacher.

yes teacher told proudly his other class has 33%.How I know? My son shared group chat kids has. As per teacher he is experimenting with all test. Seems sudden change in teachers behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

So as teacher what you think when majority of your class failed?
A more kids are on drugs'
B more kids did party
C more kids used ChatGpt or PhotoMath for homework
D You were not able to explain this chapter properly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a former professor, and in my experience, if most or all of your students are failing, you’re the common denominator in that case. It means that your teaching methods and/or your assessment tools are ineffective. Whether it’s an Honors class or not is irrelevant because it’s not about the students, it’s about you.

Sure all your students appreciates your this attitude. And have seen most teacher with same above attitude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

So as teacher what you think when majority of your class failed?
A more kids are on drugs'
B more kids did party
C more kids used ChatGpt or PhotoMath for homework
D You were not able to explain this chapter properly?

E. Most didn’t put the required effort in to learn the material. You have no idea what it’s like now, even in an honors class. They sit with both AirPods in and their eyes closed. They refuse to take out a pencil/pen or turn anything in during an entire unit. They show up the day of the test and admit they are not prepared. Then parents are upset they are not passing because they are an honors student. You are assuming they even come to class. Teaching has changed so much. Explaining the material well is not the issue every time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

So as teacher what you think when majority of your class failed?
A more kids are on drugs'
B more kids did party
C more kids used ChatGpt or PhotoMath for homework
D You were not able to explain this chapter properly?

E. Most didn’t put the required effort in to learn the material. You have no idea what it’s like now, even in an honors class. They sit with both AirPods in and their eyes closed. They refuse to take out a pencil/pen or turn anything in during an entire unit. They show up the day of the test and admit they are not prepared. Then parents are upset they are not passing because they are an honors student. You are assuming they even come to class. Teaching has changed so much. Explaining the material well is not the issue every time.

Agreed its the policies but parents need to understand these schools are not working for their kids and shut them down. We don't need extra money on names, girls wrestling, and start times for kids to sit in class with air pods. This is their childhood and it's being ruined by poor policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

So as teacher what you think when majority of your class failed?
A more kids are on drugs'
B more kids did party
C more kids used ChatGpt or PhotoMath for homework
D You were not able to explain this chapter properly?

E. Most didn’t put the required effort in to learn the material. You have no idea what it’s like now, even in an honors class. They sit with both AirPods in and their eyes closed. They refuse to take out a pencil/pen or turn anything in during an entire unit. They show up the day of the test and admit they are not prepared. Then parents are upset they are not passing because they are an honors student. You are assuming they even come to class. Teaching has changed so much. Explaining the material well is not the issue every time.

+1, I’m sure there are a few things that teacher can do differently, but the kids also have to put in some effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

So as teacher what you think when majority of your class failed?
A more kids are on drugs'
B more kids did party
C more kids used ChatGpt or PhotoMath for homework
D You were not able to explain this chapter properly?

E. Most didn’t put the required effort in to learn the material. You have no idea what it’s like now, even in an honors class. They sit with both AirPods in and their eyes closed. They refuse to take out a pencil/pen or turn anything in during an entire unit. They show up the day of the test and admit they are not prepared. Then parents are upset they are not passing because they are an honors student. You are assuming they even come to class. Teaching has changed so much. Explaining the material well is not the issue every time.

Agreed its the policies but parents need to understand these schools are not working for their kids and shut them down. We don't need extra money on names, girls wrestling, and start times for kids to sit in class with air pods. This is their childhood and it's being ruined by poor policies.

How about Mom and Dad try some basic parenting and take the airpods away, for starters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Questions for you since I’m a HS teacher and recently graded a test where the majority of a class failed. Several students in the class earned As.


How do you know the class average?

Was this course open enrollment? If so, was it recommended the student take it?

Has all homework and classwork been completed on their own? That means they really know the material and aren’t using ChatGpt or PhotoMath etc to just get it done.

Are they regularly coming for extra help and going over notes and class content? Are they waiting to study until the night before the test and hoping the questions are exactly like the study guide, which they never will be and are told that?

So as teacher what you think when majority of your class failed?
A more kids are on drugs'
B more kids did party
C more kids used ChatGpt or PhotoMath for homework
D You were not able to explain this chapter properly?

E. Most didn’t put the required effort in to learn the material. You have no idea what it’s like now, even in an honors class. They sit with both AirPods in and their eyes closed. They refuse to take out a pencil/pen or turn anything in during an entire unit. They show up the day of the test and admit they are not prepared. Then parents are upset they are not passing because they are an honors student. You are assuming they even come to class. Teaching has changed so much. Explaining the material well is not the issue every time.

Agreed its the policies but parents need to understand these schools are not working for their kids and shut them down. We don't need extra money on names, girls wrestling, and start times for kids to sit in class with air pods. This is their childhood and it's being ruined by poor policies.

How about Mom and Dad try some basic parenting and take the airpods away, for starters.

Parents are labeled too controlling. Same for teachers. A lax society creates these issues. Likely they aren't airpods and are some sort of $20 pair and if a parent gets involved in the school they are told to back off. The schools need to police their own spaces and they won't so the schools should shut down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is similar to this thread
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1187713.page

someone is failing and parent is blaming the teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy

Teachers work contracted hours. They aren't required to stay after school. All of the teachers I work with have after school jobs.

FCPS has teachers who use no textbooks, make no materials available online, will not help kids after school, play favorites, and wait until they end of a quarter to let kids and parents know kids are struggling. It’s a HUGE quality control problem and, while most teachers who behave like this get weeded out EVENTUALLY, they ruin school for some kids.

But please carry on with your script about how teachers need only do the minimum.

It sounds like you are assuming that teachers make these decisions. They don’t. I have an after school job to be able to pay my bills. If someone wants to pay me the same hourly rate or more, I’ll gladly stay after to work with students who need help. My friend offers this a few days each week and nobody shows up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of mine in HS had a teacher who gave tests with 4 questions only.

Miss one you get a B, miss two you got a D, etc...
AP course.

I rarely went to administration at my school. Maybe twice having six kids.

For this, I went. Why?
1. The teacher never once answered emails or phone calls.
2. The teacher told students he would not help after class ie no office hours ever.
3. There was no learning coming from this classroom the teacher was ineffective at best.
4. The teacher thought it was "funny" to pick on students in class.

My student had no trouble with the tests. They were an A student and taught themselves. However, given this was an AP class I expected better instruction.

After our conversation with the principal, the testing structure changed.

The crappy teacher was still crappy

You should go show that teacher how you'd do it better....lol