Capitol hill classic volleyball 2024

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Anonymous wrote:For CHC, the various individual awards are determined by knowledgeable people who the tournament has evaluate certain divisions. It’s my understanding that an evaluator will be given a few divisions they are responsible for. Doing it by stats wouldn’t really be possible since there is no centralized source of stats. Any stats that exist are taken by the team/club or in some cases stats are generated by a paid service such as Hudl. So some teams will have detailed stats and other will have no stats.

We are in what I would call an average club and the coach generates player stats by uploading the game videos in Balltime. Some wrong assignments must be cleaned up manually, but you can quickly get a good idea of how well / poorly each player performed. Does the evaluator really decide the awards without using any technology? If that's the case, I am not surprised that those with some skin in the game will keep complaining about the awards being rigged.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, CHC is a USAV sanctioned event and it counts as one of the two required CHRVA tournaments that a team must play in to be eligible for CHRVA bid regionals.

This is weird then. Why don't the results transfer to AES? Why does the club have to request the transfer?

I think it's a technology issue. AES/SportsEngine are not exactly leading edge platforms and they don't seem motivated to integrate to with other platforms (like SportWrench).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For CHC, the various individual awards are determined by knowledgeable people who the tournament has evaluate certain divisions. It’s my understanding that an evaluator will be given a few divisions they are responsible for. Doing it by stats wouldn’t really be possible since there is no centralized source of stats. Any stats that exist are taken by the team/club or in some cases stats are generated by a paid service such as Hudl. So some teams will have detailed stats and other will have no stats.

We are in what I would call an average club and the coach generates player stats by uploading the game videos in Balltime. Some wrong assignments must be cleaned up manually, but you can quickly get a good idea of how well / poorly each player performed. Does the evaluator really decide the awards without using any technology? If that's the case, I am not surprised that those with some skin in the game will keep complaining about the awards being rigged.

I know a few people that have been evaluators for CHC individual awards and my understanding is that the basis for the awards is just their subjective assessment. The awards are given upon the conclusion of the finals in the gold bracket when the medals are being handed out and pictures are being taken. Making use of stats, particularly ones generated after the fact like those done by Hudl or Gametime wouldn't really be feasible. Also, coming up with some stats based criteria would be really hard. Hypothetically, did a player who got 95% of their serves in and 25 aces on the weekend but who's team went 2-7 and played in Flight 3 on Monday have a better serving performance than a player who got 90% of their serves in and 20 aces on the weekend but served an ace at championship point in the gold bracket?

While I'm sure there are great performances that get missed every year, I prefer to think of it like picking the Super Bowl MVP. Even though it is subjective, for the most part they get it right.

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Anonymous wrote:For CHC, the various individual awards are determined by knowledgeable people who the tournament has evaluate certain divisions. It’s my understanding that an evaluator will be given a few divisions they are responsible for. Doing it by stats wouldn’t really be possible since there is no centralized source of stats. Any stats that exist are taken by the team/club or in some cases stats are generated by a paid service such as Hudl. So some teams will have detailed stats and other will have no stats.

We are in what I would call an average club and the coach generates player stats by uploading the game videos in Balltime. Some wrong assignments must be cleaned up manually, but you can quickly get a good idea of how well / poorly each player performed. Does the evaluator really decide the awards without using any technology? If that's the case, I am not surprised that those with some skin in the game will keep complaining about the awards being rigged.

I know a few people that have been evaluators for CHC individual awards and my understanding is that the basis for the awards is just their subjective assessment. The awards are given upon the conclusion of the finals in the gold bracket when the medals are being handed out and pictures are being taken. Making use of stats, particularly ones generated after the fact like those done by Hudl or Gametime wouldn't really be feasible. Also, coming up with some stats based criteria would be really hard. Hypothetically, did a player who got 95% of their serves in and 25 aces on the weekend but who's team went 2-7 and played in Flight 3 on Monday have a better serving performance than a player who got 90% of their serves in and 20 aces on the weekend but served an ace at championship point in the gold bracket?

While I'm sure there are great performances that get missed every year, I prefer to think of it like picking the Super Bowl MVP. Even though it is subjective, for the most part they get it right.

It is pretty obvious even to me (relatively new to volleyball) that stats cannot be used to compare players in different brackets. I strongly believe that the personal awards should be given to players who end up in the gold bracket (finals, maybe include the semi-finals). When you have two players who performed equally well, the stats may give you a more objective criteria to give the awards. Then you will have less bickering about the awards being rigged.