Giving up coffee. Is it self-defeating if…

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

Off topic, but please explain to me what is chai latte? I mean it is just tea with milk, no? Chai is the word for tea in many countries, in my birth country too. Is it just English breakfast tea then?

It’s masala chai (not like real masala chai, an Americanized mass market version, but that’s the flavor they’re aiming for) rather than English breakfast tea with milk. It’s called a chai latte because Starbucks likes to be fake Italian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

Off topic, but please explain to me what is chai latte? I mean it is just tea with milk, no? Chai is the word for tea in many countries, in my birth country too. Is it just English breakfast tea then?

A chai latte in the US is usually black tea, spices, and steamed milk. You may also hear the term dirty chai which is a chai latte with a shot of espresso in it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

Off topic, but please explain to me what is chai latte? I mean it is just tea with milk, no? Chai is the word for tea in many countries, in my birth country too. Is it just English breakfast tea then?

A chai latte in the US is usually black tea, spices, and steamed milk. You may also hear the term dirty chai which is a chai latte with a shot of espresso in it.

Why did you omit a standard chai latte comes with tons of sugar in it? At least it does at every Starbucks to hipster independent coffee shop I've been to. 42g of sugar in Starbucks grande-sized chai latte. Chai latte is not a healthy alternative to quitting coffee, unless you load your morning coffee with tons of sugar.

[Anonymous]

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Some people need to reduce their caffeine intake: pregnant women, for example, or people who struggle with insomnia.

Tea has less caffeine than coffee, OP, so you could try that. Black tea contains the most caffeine, so if you pick that, make sure not to steep the tea too much.

I am a black tea drinker and don't really like the taste of coffee. When I was pregnant, I reduced my tea intake.

Is there any reputable research indicating that pregnant women should avoid coffee? It has been a few years since my last pregnancy, but I never came across any. Like a prior poster, I’m curious about why anyone would feel the need to give it up and think that the answe will inform posters who wish to respond.

Not necessary to avoid coffee entirely when pregnant, but—depending on how much a person drinks per day— there are advisable ranges. I had to give up coffee while pregnant because it made me nauseous during the first trimester, and baby hated it during second and third trimesters (lots of spastic movement afterward that didn’t feel good ). I encountered many women with similar experiences and many who drank coffee without incident.

I drank no coffee or caffeine in pregnancies! Both kids hyper all the time, one has AHDH. So, maybe if I drank it, they would be less active?
Does that logic make sense?????

Likely more to do with your age at pregnancy than drinking coffee once in a while.

[Anonymous]

One cup a day is good for your liver

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Some people need to reduce their caffeine intake: pregnant women, for example, or people who struggle with insomnia.

Tea has less caffeine than coffee, OP, so you could try that. Black tea contains the most caffeine, so if you pick that, make sure not to steep the tea too much.

I am a black tea drinker and don't really like the taste of coffee. When I was pregnant, I reduced my tea intake.

Is there any reputable research indicating that pregnant women should avoid coffee? It has been a few years since my last pregnancy, but I never came across any. Like a prior poster, I’m curious about why anyone would feel the need to give it up and think that the answe will inform posters who wish to respond.

The most reputable research indicates normal quantities of caffeine (2-3 cups of coffee) is fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

What is the difference between a plain espresso latte vs chai latte? The latter has a lot of sugar. Same for black coffee vs green tea with 30g of sugar from honey to make it drinkable.

Coffee was making me agitated so I switched to tea. Also realized I need a lot of more sugar and milk in coffee because I hate the taste. I can drink tea black but like to add a little bit of sugar or honey. Much less than for coffee.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Some people need to reduce their caffeine intake: pregnant women, for example, or people who struggle with insomnia.

Tea has less caffeine than coffee, OP, so you could try that. Black tea contains the most caffeine, so if you pick that, make sure not to steep the tea too much.

I am a black tea drinker and don't really like the taste of coffee. When I was pregnant, I reduced my tea intake.

Is there any reputable research indicating that pregnant women should avoid coffee? It has been a few years since my last pregnancy, but I never came across any. Like a prior poster, I’m curious about why anyone would feel the need to give it up and think that the answe will inform posters who wish to respond.

Not necessary to avoid coffee entirely when pregnant, but—depending on how much a person drinks per day— there are advisable ranges. I had to give up coffee while pregnant because it made me nauseous during the first trimester, and baby hated it during second and third trimesters (lots of spastic movement afterward that didn’t feel good ). I encountered many women with similar experiences and many who drank coffee without incident.

I drank no coffee or caffeine in pregnancies! Both kids hyper all the time, one has AHDH. So, maybe if I drank it, they would be less active?
Does that logic make sense?????

Likely more to do with your age at pregnancy than drinking coffee once in a while.

For ADHD, parental age is not usually a factor. Both my kids have ADHD and I had them at 27 and 29. Now genetics play a huge role. Show me a kid with ADHD, and I’ll show you at least one parent with ADHD. In our case, it is both parents. My poor kids never stood a chance. Fortunately, they are kind, compassionate, smart, hard working people. So, I’ll keep them.

As to caffeine, I have terrible migraines. And took years, and Botox, and the invention of a new class of drugs, to get them under control. So, I follow my doctor’s advice and limit caffeine to one caffeinated beverage a day. (Okay, mostly follow. He would prefer no caffeine). Because yes, caffeine is an ingredient in OTC migraine meds, and works if you use it for 1-2 headaches a month. But with multiple headaches a week, you end up with rebound headaches and that makes everything worse.

I used to love my one cup of coffee in the morning. Really sit and enjoy it. But I’ve been on Wegovy and then Zepbound for 10 months, and it’s changed the taste of coffee. So I stopped drinking it without even realizing it. And when I make a cup, I don’t drink it all. Largely because of migraines, I seriously limit alcohol intake too. As in maybe 1-2 drinks a month. And it’s also NBD. I’m an introvert and not a parties anyway, and when I am in a social setting, club soda with lime works fine.

I really don’t understand the hand wringing over stopping caffeine or “dry January”. Drinking some caffeine (and alcohol) should be fine unless you have a medical or religious reason not to (obviously including alcoholism in this group). Like everything else in life, overdoing it is problematic.

But yes, there are reasons people stop or limit caffeine. And, pregnancy and migraines are two of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ill never understand why people think coffee is 'unhealthy'.

Many people drink it all day. It adds up to a lot of caffeine. They are addicts. And they sleep like crap and don’t understand why.

Well, caffeine addition is real. DH chugs soda all day long and then has this "I don't ever sleep" mantra... Gosh safe me! Of course you don't sleep, you just had Dr Pepper at 9 PM!

This was my DH for years. Would drink as much as a twelve pack of Dr. Pepper a day. Then our son was diagnosed with ADHD and DH saw all these behaviors and traits he shares with DS and a lightbulb went off. Sure enough, undiagnosed ADHD. He had been self medicating for years. Saw an MD, did the testing, got a prescription and quit the Dr. Pepper cold turkey. And promptly dropped 20 pounds and probably saved himself from becoming diabetic. My father would also down a 2 liter bottle of Diet Coke in one sitting, and still does. And I am 100% certain I got my ADHd from him. He’s just never been willing to admit there is a problem. Despite now being diabetic.

At any rate, your DH should be aware that downing large amounts of coffee or soda can be a sign you are self medicating ADHD. And that has a solution that doesn’t involve hundreds of grams of sugar a day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ill never understand why people think coffee is 'unhealthy'.

Many people drink it all day. It adds up to a lot of caffeine. They are addicts. And they sleep like crap and don’t understand why.

I drink three cups a day and I sleep like a baby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

Off topic, but please explain to me what is chai latte? I mean it is just tea with milk, no? Chai is the word for tea in many countries, in my birth country too. Is it just English breakfast tea then?

A chai latte in the US is usually black tea, spices, and steamed milk. You may also hear the term dirty chai which is a chai latte with a shot of espresso in it.

Why did you omit a standard chai latte comes with tons of sugar in it? At least it does at every Starbucks to hipster independent coffee shop I've been to. 42g of sugar in Starbucks grande-sized chai latte. Chai latte is not a healthy alternative to quitting coffee, unless you load your morning coffee with tons of sugar.

NP. Anyone reading these boards should understand that *every* Starbucks drink (except drip or Americano) is loaded to the hilt with sugar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

Off topic, but please explain to me what is chai latte? I mean it is just tea with milk, no? Chai is the word for tea in many countries, in my birth country too. Is it just English breakfast tea then?

A chai latte in the US is usually black tea, spices, and steamed milk. You may also hear the term dirty chai which is a chai latte with a shot of espresso in it.

Why did you omit a standard chai latte comes with tons of sugar in it? At least it does at every Starbucks to hipster independent coffee shop I've been to. 42g of sugar in Starbucks grande-sized chai latte. Chai latte is not a healthy alternative to quitting coffee, unless you load your morning coffee with tons of sugar.

NP. Anyone reading these boards should understand that *every* Starbucks drink (except drip or Americano) is loaded to the hilt with sugar.

Well, I drink a misto--with mostly coffee and just topped off with steamed milk. The ingredients in that are: coffee and whole milk. No, most drinks in Starbucks are not loaded with sugar. Only the ones with, you know, sugar. A regular old latte? Espresso and milk. Again, no sugar. Do you know how coffee and espresso work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by self defeating?
I stopped drinking coffee and occasionally make myself a chai latte or green tea with honey. It’s been 4 months now.
I don’t miss coffee.

Off topic, but please explain to me what is chai latte? I mean it is just tea with milk, no? Chai is the word for tea in many countries, in my birth country too. Is it just English breakfast tea then?

A chai latte in the US is usually black tea, spices, and steamed milk. You may also hear the term dirty chai which is a chai latte with a shot of espresso in it.

Why did you omit a standard chai latte comes with tons of sugar in it? At least it does at every Starbucks to hipster independent coffee shop I've been to. 42g of sugar in Starbucks grande-sized chai latte. Chai latte is not a healthy alternative to quitting coffee, unless you load your morning coffee with tons of sugar.

NP. Anyone reading these boards should understand that *every* Starbucks drink (except drip or Americano) is loaded to the hilt with sugar.

My go to is a plain latte with almond milk. What could possibly be wrong with that? (Every once in a while I’ll add one pump of vanilla, but even that isn’t outrageous. It’s about 20 calories. All sugar, but still… It’s the venti with 5-6 pumps that kills you).

[Anonymous]

I have bad GERD and caffeine triggers it.

I tried to have tea and still had problemsg , but found Decaf Nescafe coffee has even less caffeine.

I drink that every morning and sometimes twice a day- works well for me.

[Anonymous]

What’s wrong with coffee?