If women could go back in time

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.


+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.


It’s a choice in theory, for women who marry high earning men that support them staying home. That’s a very small portion of men, and most women have to work whether they want to or not.


Well in “the past” women married to low earning men had to handle their households on that income or work, same as today. They just had fewer opportunities and less pay for working than their male counterparts.

Me, I’m a lesbian, so no, I wouldn’t want to go back to society aggressively enforcing heteronormative gender roles.
Anonymous
Women (SAH, WFH, PT, FT, WOTH, retired) need societal support for puberty, periods, fertility, pregnancy, maternity, post partum, different phases of parenting, menopause etc.

It can be educational, social, financial, medical, therapy, career guidance, maternity leave, sick leave, family leave, childcare and any required resources.

They shouldn't have to bare all the burden themselves. As much as unwed, single or divorced motherhood is glorified, its not fair to mothers or their kids. Strong family units are needed for emotional and practical support to do well and raise healthy humans. When its not possible, there should be an alternative support system.

Mothers should be encouraged and supported but never forced to do mothering.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:God no!

I’m thankful for the 40 hour week that was fought for as well.

I could not imagine having someone I love with all my heart working more than that, never seeing their own kids, and giving up 1/2 their hard earned money to a cheating wife

Now that we’re getting closer to bring equal at work..

I’m also super thankful men are getting Paternity leave, getting family flexible schedules and gave more opportunities to be equal parents.

Plus I did not miss one thing in my children’s lives.

Also I could not imagine being so selfish as to not fight for women who don’t want to marry /have kids not having those opportunities.

Also … yes I’m very happy! I provide the happiness… it was never “ promised “ its comes from within.


How is that possible if you were at work and they were with somebody else?


Same way it’s possible for a SAHM not to miss anything even though they go to the bathroom, shower, do laundry, go for a run, go to the gym, take a nap, go to church, visit their parents, go grocery shopping, send their kids to school.

There is not one thing that I missed. I was home with them 4 days a week, worked 6-2:30 3 days a week when they were little, and a few hours after bedtime, they slept a lot or were in preschool.[b] My H did morning routine. Help from 10-4, kids napped 2x a day or were in a preschool.

I guess I “missed” 8-10, 12-1, 3-4 4x a week lol!




Soooo, you worked nowhere near full time. I am a working mom who is pretty happy with my life but I struggled mightily when my kids were smaller about the idea that I was missing a lot of waking hours I could have had with them. I definitely had on rose-colored glasses about what being a SAHM of two little kids would have been like, but it was technically true!


At my work 32 hours + is considered full time and we get a cut in pay based on hours.

I worked 24 hours during the day and the rest after they went to bed, and a little while they were in preschool/napping. There are SO MANY DOWN HOURS. So I did work 34 hours (on the books) most weeks plus I would take a call on my days off and not count it. That's 6 hours < than 40. Sure that 1 hour most days and 2 hours on Friday could make a difference I guess, but really are you really squabbling over 1 hour a day.

My H also adjusted his hours based on morning routing leaving at 10am infant years but preschool started at 8:30 at 3, so he could be at work at 9.

10-6:00 infant years, 9-5 otherwise.

We adjusted based on needs/schedule/etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.


+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.


It’s a choice in theory, for women who marry high earning men that support them staying home. That’s a very small portion of men, and most women have to work whether they want to or not.


Historically most women had to work - in poorer families . The only difference now is we can also control our money, go into better paying careers, and leave an abusive relationship.


So yeah. Wouldn’t go back and change that.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised?

Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose


What kind of planet do you live on?

I have a full-time job, always have. I've definitely seen my kids grow up. You sound dim.


+1. She's just trying to make herself feel better about being a SAHM.
Anonymous
Birth control resources, from education to pills to abortion, all should be easily and freely available to every woman. No woman should ever be forced to keep a baby she doesn't want.
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Anonymous wrote:I work full time, make >$500k, and see my children grow up and do tons of things together.

It’s how I manage my time and the systems we have set up.



Please share your systems! And your occupation.


And your money!


Ms. 500k is a troll, not a real person. Move along.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.


+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.


Yes
Anonymous
My mother was a SAHM who never worked (beyond volunteering) her whole life. She had a very good financial situation because of my father's career. My dad was a good person and they were married for 60+ years. Nevertheless, at mid-life she felt unfulfilled and had periods of deep unhappiness. This arrangement doesn't mean that life is perfect because of it. It's one way to live but I don't think it should be idealized as a much better way to live. Read The Feminine Mystique about "the problem with no name" for the post-war, educated, upper middle-class woman.

As another poster pointed out, lots of women worked. My husband's grandmother worked in a factory pre- and post-WWII. His mother always worked.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.


+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.


It’s a choice in theory, for women who marry high earning men that support them staying home. That’s a very small portion of men, and most women have to work whether they want to or not.


+1 most women have to work and raise kids. It sucks.
Anonymous
I don't want my DD to sacrifice her career to raise children but if she chooses to do so for few years, she shouldn't be seen as lazy and it shouldn't effect her career trajectory or financial independence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You mean white women of a certain class during a certain time period in the US, right? Because the model you're talking about was never common.

And no, I don't think they would have fought to be able to open their own bank accounts, get their own loans, etc. and not fought to also be able to get jobs. Maybe they would have fought harder for a social safety net that didn't require many moms to stay away from their kids in order to be financially secure.

+1
I am the first sahm in a long line of women who worked so this would have been very novel for them and only reserved for "high society" as they would say. If anything the composition of top leadership positions still have a long way to go. We are not so equal but every year we make noise and try to fix things. I think the Me Too social movement is a great example of modern women making societal changes that shined a light in work, school and life situations most would keep quiet for shame.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.


+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.


It’s a choice in theory, for women who marry high earning men that support them staying home. That’s a very small portion of men, and most women have to work whether they want to or not.


+1 most women have to work and raise kids. It sucks.


No one works and raises kids, someone else does. It can be family or hired help but its always someone who is physically doing it.
Anonymous
If working moms are indeed raising kids then why childcare industry is worth trillions and why millions work in childcare?

There is no shame in admitting that some women prefer or have to raise children and others don't. If fathers fan have options, why can't mothers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.


+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.


It’s a choice in theory, for women who marry high earning men that support them staying home. That’s a very small portion of men, and most women have to work whether they want to or not.


+1 most women have to work and raise kids. It sucks.


No one works and raises kids, someone else does. It can be family or hired help but its always someone who is physically doing it.


Not true.

Your kids are in school and you’re still raising them. Your h is at work and still raising them

You don’t understand the word raising.
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