I am an academic. I love teaching and writing books and articles. This idea that every woman just wants to go to the gym and out to lunch is insulting. I am a Christian but believe that God has given us different gifts. Some of us women folk are meant to be doctors and lawyers, judges, architects, generals, admirals, teachers. How bizarre to think that all of us are somehow supposed to stay home. |
Who said that in this thread? |
Same way it’s possible for a SAHM not to miss anything even though they go to the bathroom, shower, do laundry, go for a run, go to the gym, take a nap, go to church, visit their parents, go grocery shopping, send their kids to school. There is not one thing that I missed. I was home with them 4 days a week, worked 6-2:30 3 days a week when they were little, and a few hours after bedtime, they slept a lot or were in preschool. My H did morning routine. Help from 10-4, kids napped 2x a day or were in a preschool. I guess I “missed” 8-10, 12-1, 3-4 4x a week lol! |
Did you all not watch Mad Men????
No, I don't want to be Betty Draper. F that. |
Soooo, you worked nowhere near full time. I am a working mom who is pretty happy with my life but I struggled mightily when my kids were smaller about the idea that I was missing a lot of waking hours I could have had with them. I definitely had on rose-colored glasses about what being a SAHM of two little kids would have been like, but it was technically true! |
This is a dumb question.
Different way of viewing parenting in that era if mothers stayed home. People had a bunch of kids, ignored their kids a lot more (in a healthy way and a way that was much more socially acceptable and common). I don't think it's safe to say parents actually spent more quality time with their kids in that era. |
And your money! ![]() |
I don't know, Phyllis. Have you watched Mrs. America? |
Just remember many if not most mommies were bored to tears and drugged with valium a/k/a "Mama's little helper." Be a little careful romanticizing it. That said, it's true that a widespread two-parent workforce did help catalyze the affordability crisis with housing, I think. |
Yes, women of all colors, ages and religions should be allowed to student and apply to whatever colleges, programs, industries, and employees they wish to and qualify for (skills, edu). Yes, that’s worth “fighting for”. The problem is the males who never grew and adapted to all the direct coddling they received from their mothers and if their wife was actually their next mommy figure. Reverting back to enabling and accommodating dysfunctional one-trick pony (ie work) males is not moving forward for any country or society. Males need a sense of community and positive role models there. That should be the focus. They isolate themselves too much, whether married or not. Other generations had fun, social softball or soccer leagues, racquet clubs, attending sporting events or performing arts, spiritually/religious communities, spoke with the neighbors more, etc. |
There's some weird misconception among some women today that the feminist movement was about "choice." It wasn't. It was about women's liberation and financial equality. Remember also that during this time, a woman couldn't even get a credit card in her own name (until well into the 1970s) and needed her husband's permission for many other financial decisions. So it's about a lot more than just "choice" and staying at home and workplace access. |
I can't speak for every woman but I would want women to have options with support and respect for their choices. Biologically women bare a bigger responsibility as humans, pregnancy, birthing and child rearing are tough and some times threaten life and/or physical/mental health so their roles ARE different and it should be acknowledged not denied. Yes, they sure can hire a surrogate and a nanny/daycare to outsource all or some mothering but ones wanting to do it themselves should be appreciated not demonized. |
Yes we have moved on.
Or do we need to tell everyone in k-12 how second class citizen women were. Maybe that should be a 2 month social studies unit every year? That will be good for the girls and the boys to hear over and over. Right? Move on. Onward and upward. |
Victims |
What kind of planet do you live on? I have a full-time job, always have. I've definitely seen my kids grow up. You sound dim. |