Teachers not standing for pledge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I may be in the minority thinking it’s good for most kids to at least know it, the meaning behind it, and perhaps recite it (should they choose to) a few times at least. The pledge isn’t a bad thing.

But after a while the pledge becomes a mindless activity, where little if any thought is put into it. After grade 6, it really should not be part of the school day.

Bleeding heart lib here and I agree 100%

Kids in AAP/ELC/CM/G&T should stop after grade 4, since they have more developed brains.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, but I don't pledge any allegiance to a flag. And certainly not "under god."

I pledge for ethics, human rights, education, kindness, among other humanist values.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, with your kids, do a home lesson on WV v Barnette. You can learn something, and explain to them how you tried to be patriotic by getting mad at the teachers and whiffed, because their right to not stand for the pledge is a good example of what makes the country great.

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”

+1

I'm about to start a next career in public school teaching. I look forward to educating my students on their civil rights including the right not to salute the flag every morning like a fascist robot.

Thank you. We need more open minded teachers. I complained to elementary school admin twice about substitutes who would stop the class after the pledge and berate the students who didn't put their hands over their hearts and recite it. One of my kids would sit quietly. I think any teacher or sub who does this should be fired. I was going to file complaints if it happened again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

Here we go. Yet another thread full of extreme reactions. Accusations of loathing the country and of being a fascist, and that’s just in the first two posts.

The post immediately after the op's is correct and accurate. Grow up and stop getting hurt feelings when people talk directly as adults should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I may be in the minority thinking it’s good for most kids to at least know it, the meaning behind it, and perhaps recite it (should they choose to) a few times at least. The pledge isn’t a bad thing.

But after a while the pledge becomes a mindless activity, where little if any thought is put into it. After grade 6, it really should not be part of the school day.

Wouldn’t it be better to teach older kids the meaning and the history behind it? Why have them do that before they have developed strong critical thinking skills?

Also it is a bad thing for a lot of people; it’s pure indoctrination/propaganda, and the part about god thrown in there during the red scare just makes it that much worse. The fact that we are putting so much emphasis on the pledge but so many American kids (and adults) don’t know the difference between Washington state and Washington DC really irks me. We have high standards for propaganda but low standards for actual education about the United States.

Thank you. This is so well put. We need to stop forcing this upon kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, with your kids, do a home lesson on WV v Barnette. You can learn something, and explain to them how you tried to be patriotic by getting mad at the teachers and whiffed, because their right to not stand for the pledge is a good example of what makes the country great.

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”

+1

I'm about to start a next career in public school teaching. I look forward to educating my students on their civil rights including the right not to salute the flag every morning like a fascist robot.

Thank you. We need more open minded teachers. I complained to elementary school admin twice about substitutes who would stop the class after the pledge and berate the students who didn't put their hands over their hearts and recite it. One of my kids would sit quietly. I think any teacher or sub who does this should be fired. I was going to file complaints if it happened again.

Let me guess middle age white women…

[Anonymous]

Real Patriots don’t feel the need to proclaim their patriotism every day for show. I’m sorry you hate your country so much and what it stands for that you’ve completely missed the point of your entire education.

Please call WJLA, OP. I could use a break from the constant “rampant crime committed by woke Islamic trans terrorist migrant caravans” headlines.

[Anonymous]

As a student it was always meaningful to me to stand for the pledge because my grandfather lost his legs in WWII and he could not stand so I felt I should. But I always felt that it was equally important that in our country, others are free to choose differently, because it’s exactly what he fought for.

It is hard to feel patriotic about this country sometimes and I don’t think all people need to feel the same and agree.

[Anonymous]

The pledge doesn't bother me as much as everyone rising for the damn anthem at every freaking sporting event.

[Anonymous]

Does the Governor still have his “tell on teachers” hotline for this kind of non-sensical faux outrage?

[Anonymous]

Our APS school doesn't do the pledge daily- alert the press!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does the Governor still have his “tell on teachers” hotline for this kind of non-sensical faux outrage?

Lol no because people coded ways to do mass fake reports.

https://www.newsweek.com/tiktokers-launch-spa...ool-tip-line-1673779

"Ongele's website generates emails that name actual Virginia schools, then uses pop music lyrics as "evidence" of CRT content in schools.

"One email generated, but not sent, by Newsweek read, "I believe Granby High School in Norfolk is teaching CRT. My son's homework said 'Motorsport do the dash, drop the top in the Lamb.'""

[Anonymous]

I am a teacher and I don't stand for the pledge. I also don't have an American flag in my room. I find it all very strange and creepy. Nothing bad has happened yet!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

I grew up in a western democracy. There is no such thing as a pledge of allegiance there.

[Anonymous]

As a Christian, I don't pledge allegiance to the governments of men.