Teachers not standing for pledge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is the pledge done on school? I find it odd and don’t care if anyone doesn’t participate. I am sure North Korea requires their pledge to be enforced

Because public schools were created, in part, to assimilate immigrants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, with your kids, do a home lesson on WV v Barnette. You can learn something, and explain to them how you tried to be patriotic by getting mad at the teachers and whiffed, because their right to not stand for the pledge is a good example of what makes the country great.

“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.”

+1

I'm about to start a next career in public school teaching. I look forward to educating my students on their civil rights including the right not to salute the flag every morning like a fascist robot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

Check out Libs of TikTok if you want to see how bad teachers can get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the pledge done on school? I find it odd and don’t care if anyone doesn’t participate. I am sure North Korea requires their pledge to be enforced

Because public schools were created, in part, to assimilate immigrants.

Public schools were created, in the early 1600s in Massachusetts, for reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with immigrants. The history of public education in America is fascinating, I encourage folks to explore it because it really is one of the finest achievements of this nation.

The pledge of allegiance was written in the late 1800s and over time it became the norm to say it in schools. At one point American schoolchildren did the Nazi salute - arm raised, hand flat - to Old Glory during the pledge, but when the Nazis came along and started doing that we stopped doing it here lol. There is no question there is a fascistic element to requiring schoolchildren to pledge to a flag every day, it's creepy.

[Anonymous]

All anyone is obligated to do is be respectful of those who choose to say the pledge. If a teacher or student is standing or sitting quietly during the pledge, they are fulfilling that expectation.

[Anonymous]

I may be in the minority thinking it’s good for most kids to at least know it, the meaning behind it, and perhaps recite it (should they choose to) a few times at least. The pledge isn’t a bad thing.

But after a while the pledge becomes a mindless activity, where little if any thought is put into it. After grade 6, it really should not be part of the school day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You should email the Baltimore Sun. The new ownership is after exactly this kind of story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I may be in the minority thinking it’s good for most kids to at least know it, the meaning behind it, and perhaps recite it (should they choose to) a few times at least. The pledge isn’t a bad thing.

But after a while the pledge becomes a mindless activity, where little if any thought is put into it. After grade 6, it really should not be part of the school day.

Bleeding heart lib here and I agree 100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I may be in the minority thinking it’s good for most kids to at least know it, the meaning behind it, and perhaps recite it (should they choose to) a few times at least. The pledge isn’t a bad thing.

But after a while the pledge becomes a mindless activity, where little if any thought is put into it. After grade 6, it really should not be part of the school day.

Wouldn’t it be better to teach older kids the meaning and the history behind it? Why have them do that before they have developed strong critical thinking skills?

Also it is a bad thing for a lot of people; it’s pure indoctrination/propaganda, and the part about god thrown in there during the red scare just makes it that much worse. The fact that we are putting so much emphasis on the pledge but so many American kids (and adults) don’t know the difference between Washington state and Washington DC really irks me. We have high standards for propaganda but low standards for actual education about the United States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pledge is weird. Kids look like weird robots doing it.

+1 I’m not a fan of it in school or anywhere for that matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

I think North Korea and China are the only other countries that have a pledge of allegiance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

+1

OP sounds ignorant.

Actually, you and the 2nd poster woke Azhat are the ignorant ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

I think North Korea and China are the only other countries that have a pledge of allegiance.

Actually very few countries have a pledge. The Philippines has one, possibly inspired by the American one since it was a US colony. I believe Singapore and India are the others.

[Anonymous]

Our announcements are so horrible half of the time we don’t know it’s happening. They are either too soft or blaring loud. I will stand if I hear it but often don’t because it’s almost over by the time we realize it’s happening. They should cut it out of the day at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine any other country teaching children to loathe their country. I’m SO tired of teachers disregarding the pledge. IF they stand still, there is no hand over heart, much less reciting the pledge. Sick of watching it day after day.


I emailed the governor and WJLA!
Hopefully they respond

You are stupid and likely a fascist. Not reciting the pledge is not equivalent to loathing your country. Did you go to college? No one is required to and frankly I'm sick of it. No other country makes kids do this. Where do you get off thinking you get to enforce this?

The Pledge of Allegiance is a US thing.

I'm Canadian. Growing up we said the Lord's Prayer every morning. We sang our national anthem. We also sang God Save The Queen as well, but I don't remember if it was daily or just special occasions. The Lord's Prayer was discontinued at some point in the late 80's I think. Singing the anthem was seen as required whether you were Canadian or not.