Makeup school day?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

They don't do it that way. They wait until winter is mostly over and they have a good sense of the total number of days needed. If there are a lot they ask MSDE for a waiver. Depending on what they say, they figure out how to fit the makeup days in. I would not expect to know anything until late Feb/early March.

What about making flight reservations etc for spring break? What is the advice?

[Anonymous]

They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

They don't do it that way. They wait until winter is mostly over and they have a good sense of the total number of days needed. If there are a lot they ask MSDE for a waiver. Depending on what they say, they figure out how to fit the makeup days in. I would not expect to know anything until late Feb/early March.

What about making flight reservations etc for spring break? What is the advice?

Don’t worry about spring break. When did they use makeup days in spring break?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

You don't have a long memory. They used a makeup day and extended the school year in 2022.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.

Except it does excite a religious debate. If 6/14 is selected for instruction, teachers’ last work day becomes 6/17. This is Eid Al-Adha. So teachers will not be able then to celebrate either Eid (since they are blocked on the first one by planning and grading).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

They do not always get a waiver, and they do sometimes use make-up days/extend the school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.

The time for that debate has come and gone. That's a calendar issue, and the calendar has been long set to include April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. If you don't think those should be school days, raise the issue when they create the new calendars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.

The time for that debate has come and gone. That's a calendar issue, and the calendar has been long set to include April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. If you don't think those should be school days, raise the issue when they create the new calendars.

We do raise it, but the school system purposely selects these days as PD/Planning/Makeup as a gamble that it will work out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

MSDE pretty much always turns down waivers unless it would mean making a Monday the last day of school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

They don't do it that way. They wait until winter is mostly over and they have a good sense of the total number of days needed. If there are a lot they ask MSDE for a waiver. Depending on what they say, they figure out how to fit the makeup days in. I would not expect to know anything until late Feb/early March.

What about making flight reservations etc for spring break? What is the advice?

Miss a day of school. This is not complicated. De-institutionalize yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe April 1? Not a religious holiday as far as I know (I'm RC, and Easter Monday isn't a thing except a rest day--although I admit that other Christian traditions could vary in ways in which I'm not familiar), and if students are traveling back from spring break, oh well--no harm, no foul: hold school for whoever can come, tick the requirement off, and life goes on.

The problem I could see there is if _teachers and staff_ were planning last-minute travel return from spring break, but my instinct (as someone who teaches elsewhere) is that that number might be comparatively low.

I suppose they'd have to see, and it might get voted down for any number of reasons, but it might be a middle course.

State requires April 1 to be off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

Why would the state give a waiver when the state is allowing virtual inclement weather days for the second year? The state says you can use virtual days, but MCPS does not, even though other counties do. Then MCPS asks for, and apparently expects, a waiver for those days? That seems a bit much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

Why would the state give a waiver when the state is allowing virtual inclement weather days for the second year? The state says you can use virtual days, but MCPS does not, even though other counties do. Then MCPS asks for, and apparently expects, a waiver for those days? That seems a bit much.

MCPS knows they won't get a waiver. They might put in for one, just to tell MCEA they did it, but they know they'll need to use make up days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May 14 is the Maryland primary election. Wouldn’t June 14 make the most sense?

No, as has been discussed at length, days tacked on to the very end of the year end up being useless. We've got other make-ups in the calendar. This really shouldn't be so complicated. Use the first make-up day that's available to preserve the others for the additional days that will be needed.

That’s your opinion, but I personally think June 14 is a useful and better option in that it will upset/disrupt fewer people. No one has a one day camp starting that day. It doesn’t ignite a religious debate. It could have easily been the last day of school in the first place. I would even keep 6/13 as a half day, do 6/14 as a half day to give teachers time to wrap everything up and close out.

The time for that debate has come and gone. That's a calendar issue, and the calendar has been long set to include April 10 and April 22 as make-up days. If you don't think those should be school days, raise the issue when they create the new calendars.

We do raise it, but the school system purposely selects these days as PD/Planning/Makeup as a gamble that it will work out.

There are too many cultural and religious holidays to accommodate them all. So these either need to be make-up days, in which case we'll need to be able to use them for that purpose, or they need to be regular school days. So if your goal is to free up this day for teachers, then understand that pushing back on its use as a make up day could backfire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They will not make up any days. They always get a waiver.. they have never used any so called make up days or extended the school year (not that I can recall..).

You don't have a long memory. They used a makeup day and extended the school year in 2022.

Yea but Hogan hated MCPS. He is gone and we’ll get a waver