Why does the city refuse to crack down on Maryland paper tags?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The answer is probably one of two reasons:

-the tags aren’t fake—you can buy temporary tags from dealerships that are basically just fronts for temp tag sales (see: Texas)

-the tages are fake but you can’t tell—the info isn’t entered into a database so unless you run the VIN you can’t tell the tag isn’t legit. I’d be pretty annoyed if I kept getting pulled over for a VIN check because I have temporary dealer tags. A temp tag isn’t probably cause anyway.

First of all, the tags are absolutely fake. Oftentimes they are absurdly fake, like printed off at home.

Second, these ghost cars are a major problem in fighting crime in the district right now. So take them off the streets. I don’t care if it’s more work for the cops and a possible minor inconvenience for people with legit tags.

Taking them off the street wouldn’t be equitable and the Council legally prohibited the cops from chasing for traffic violations.

Correct. This isn't a rumor we're speculating about. It is explicit and in writing for all to see.

Still waiting for the link to the “explicit” and “in writing” policy on paper tags you keep referring to …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer is probably one of two reasons:

-the tags aren’t fake—you can buy temporary tags from dealerships that are basically just fronts for temp tag sales (see: Texas)

-the tages are fake but you can’t tell—the info isn’t entered into a database so unless you run the VIN you can’t tell the tag isn’t legit. I’d be pretty annoyed if I kept getting pulled over for a VIN check because I have temporary dealer tags. A temp tag isn’t probably cause anyway.

First of all, the tags are absolutely fake. Oftentimes they are absurdly fake, like printed off at home.

Second, these ghost cars are a major problem in fighting crime in the district right now. So take them off the streets. I don’t care if it’s more work for the cops and a possible minor inconvenience for people with legit tags.

Taking them off the street wouldn’t be equitable and the Council legally prohibited the cops from chasing for traffic violations.

Correct. This isn't a rumor we're speculating about. It is explicit and in writing for all to see.

Still waiting for the link to the “explicit” and “in writing” policy on paper tags you keep referring to …

https://twitter.com/JWPascale/status/1577728254013837336

https://ggwash.org/view/88886/fake-tags-are-a-real-problem

I have a feeling you're the kind of person who won't come back and acknowledge that here it is for you to see. What other assumptions are you wrong about? (hint: all of them).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

Your insurance covers things.

Always amazing the stupidity of some who post here.

Sure, but doesn't that raise my premium?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

That's why you have insurance.

We were hit (while parked) by a car w/ fake paper tags. The dc police were totally apathetic. The car that hit us was abandoned a block away, and the entire accident was caught on very clear camera. The police didn’t even see the car a block away - we saw it when waiting for our car to be towed. We called back 911 and the detective and 911 both said they would not fingerprint the car if no one was in it. Completely infuriating. Thankfully we were not hurt badly but we were without a car for 5 months (insurance o my covered 2 weeks of a loaner for us. Our insurance went way up and the value of our car went way down. This was with good Chubb insurance, too.

So basically the outcome was almost equitable except you still had a car. MPD needs to work a little harder.

I’m curious why you think it was equitable? I had parked and was getting out of the car with my kids so wasn’t at fault at all. My car wasn’t even turned on. We had to pay to rent a car for 5 months, our insurance premium is now way up, my youngest had to go in an ambulance and I had all of those fees, we had to pay our deductible, etc. The police could have fingerprinted the car that hit us since it was abandoned right after the accident, yet they did nothing and said they couldn’t catch the person. The fake temp tags on the car looked like they had printed themselves and the date on them was about a year old. There was no inspection or anything on the car. I’m not sure why there’s anything equitable about this? All they had to do was fingerprint the car - perhaps that combined w/ the video which clearly showed the drivers face and the hit and run could have taken one more creep off the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

That's why you have insurance.

We were hit (while parked) by a car w/ fake paper tags. The dc police were totally apathetic. The car that hit us was abandoned a block away, and the entire accident was caught on very clear camera. The police didn’t even see the car a block away - we saw it when waiting for our car to be towed. We called back 911 and the detective and 911 both said they would not fingerprint the car if no one was in it. Completely infuriating. Thankfully we were not hurt badly but we were without a car for 5 months (insurance o my covered 2 weeks of a loaner for us. Our insurance went way up and the value of our car went way down. This was with good Chubb insurance, too.

So basically the outcome was almost equitable except you still had a car. MPD needs to work a little harder.

I’m curious why you think it was equitable? I had parked and was getting out of the car with my kids so wasn’t at fault at all. My car wasn’t even turned on. We had to pay to rent a car for 5 months, our insurance premium is now way up, my youngest had to go in an ambulance and I had all of those fees, we had to pay our deductible, etc. The police could have fingerprinted the car that hit us since it was abandoned right after the accident, yet they did nothing and said they couldn’t catch the person. The fake temp tags on the car looked like they had printed themselves and the date on them was about a year old. There was no inspection or anything on the car. I’m not sure why there’s anything equitable about this? All they had to do was fingerprint the car - perhaps that combined w/ the video which clearly showed the drivers face and the hit and run could have taken one more creep off the street.

Nuts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

That's why you have insurance.

We were hit (while parked) by a car w/ fake paper tags. The dc police were totally apathetic. The car that hit us was abandoned a block away, and the entire accident was caught on very clear camera. The police didn’t even see the car a block away - we saw it when waiting for our car to be towed. We called back 911 and the detective and 911 both said they would not fingerprint the car if no one was in it. Completely infuriating. Thankfully we were not hurt badly but we were without a car for 5 months (insurance o my covered 2 weeks of a loaner for us. Our insurance went way up and the value of our car went way down. This was with good Chubb insurance, too.

So basically the outcome was almost equitable except you still had a car. MPD needs to work a little harder.

I’m curious why you think it was equitable? I had parked and was getting out of the car with my kids so wasn’t at fault at all. My car wasn’t even turned on. We had to pay to rent a car for 5 months, our insurance premium is now way up, my youngest had to go in an ambulance and I had all of those fees, we had to pay our deductible, etc. The police could have fingerprinted the car that hit us since it was abandoned right after the accident, yet they did nothing and said they couldn’t catch the person. The fake temp tags on the car looked like they had printed themselves and the date on them was about a year old. There was no inspection or anything on the car. I’m not sure why there’s anything equitable about this? All they had to do was fingerprint the car - perhaps that combined w/ the video which clearly showed the drivers face and the hit and run could have taken one more creep off the street.

Remember the other driver doesn't have a car now. You still have one. That's not fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

That's why you have insurance.

We were hit (while parked) by a car w/ fake paper tags. The dc police were totally apathetic. The car that hit us was abandoned a block away, and the entire accident was caught on very clear camera. The police didn’t even see the car a block away - we saw it when waiting for our car to be towed. We called back 911 and the detective and 911 both said they would not fingerprint the car if no one was in it. Completely infuriating. Thankfully we were not hurt badly but we were without a car for 5 months (insurance o my covered 2 weeks of a loaner for us. Our insurance went way up and the value of our car went way down. This was with good Chubb insurance, too.

So basically the outcome was almost equitable except you still had a car. MPD needs to work a little harder.

I’m curious why you think it was equitable? I had parked and was getting out of the car with my kids so wasn’t at fault at all. My car wasn’t even turned on. We had to pay to rent a car for 5 months, our insurance premium is now way up, my youngest had to go in an ambulance and I had all of those fees, we had to pay our deductible, etc. The police could have fingerprinted the car that hit us since it was abandoned right after the accident, yet they did nothing and said they couldn’t catch the person. The fake temp tags on the car looked like they had printed themselves and the date on them was about a year old. There was no inspection or anything on the car. I’m not sure why there’s anything equitable about this? All they had to do was fingerprint the car - perhaps that combined w/ the video which clearly showed the drivers face and the hit and run could have taken one more creep off the street.

Don’t feed the trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer is probably one of two reasons:

-the tags aren’t fake—you can buy temporary tags from dealerships that are basically just fronts for temp tag sales (see: Texas)

-the tages are fake but you can’t tell—the info isn’t entered into a database so unless you run the VIN you can’t tell the tag isn’t legit. I’d be pretty annoyed if I kept getting pulled over for a VIN check because I have temporary dealer tags. A temp tag isn’t probably cause anyway.

First of all, the tags are absolutely fake. Oftentimes they are absurdly fake, like printed off at home.

Second, these ghost cars are a major problem in fighting crime in the district right now. So take them off the streets. I don’t care if it’s more work for the cops and a possible minor inconvenience for people with legit tags.

Taking them off the street wouldn’t be equitable and the Council legally prohibited the cops from chasing for traffic violations.

Correct. This isn't a rumor we're speculating about. It is explicit and in writing for all to see.

Still waiting for the link to the “explicit” and “in writing” policy on paper tags you keep referring to …

https://twitter.com/JWPascale/status/1577728254013837336

https://ggwash.org/view/88886/fake-tags-are-a-real-problem

I have a feeling you're the kind of person who won't come back and acknowledge that here it is for you to see. What other assumptions are you wrong about? (hint: all of them).

Actually, I’m the OP and I’m trying to get to the root of the problem so I can figure out who to complain to. (My CM is Charles Allen so that’s useless). Looks like they (the mayor?) had a task force that looked at the problem and decided all the proposed solutions would have a disparate impact on people of color. Hard to know whether that’s a smart decision without knowing what was proposed (unless the proposed solutions were “pull over more Black people,” I suspect that decision was misguided).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

That's why you have insurance.

We were hit (while parked) by a car w/ fake paper tags. The dc police were totally apathetic. The car that hit us was abandoned a block away, and the entire accident was caught on very clear camera. The police didn’t even see the car a block away - we saw it when waiting for our car to be towed. We called back 911 and the detective and 911 both said they would not fingerprint the car if no one was in it. Completely infuriating. Thankfully we were not hurt badly but we were without a car for 5 months (insurance o my covered 2 weeks of a loaner for us. Our insurance went way up and the value of our car went way down. This was with good Chubb insurance, too.

So basically the outcome was almost equitable except you still had a car. MPD needs to work a little harder.

I’m curious why you think it was equitable? I had parked and was getting out of the car with my kids so wasn’t at fault at all. My car wasn’t even turned on. We had to pay to rent a car for 5 months, our insurance premium is now way up, my youngest had to go in an ambulance and I had all of those fees, we had to pay our deductible, etc. The police could have fingerprinted the car that hit us since it was abandoned right after the accident, yet they did nothing and said they couldn’t catch the person. The fake temp tags on the car looked like they had printed themselves and the date on them was about a year old. There was no inspection or anything on the car. I’m not sure why there’s anything equitable about this? All they had to do was fingerprint the car - perhaps that combined w/ the video which clearly showed the drivers face and the hit and run could have taken one more creep off the street.

The police don’t “fingerprint the car”, that would be the non-accredited crime lab.

And neither the AG nor the USAO prosecute murders, so even if the crime lab techs were functional, and a suspect was identified, and arrested, your hit and run wouldn’t have been prosecuted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer is probably one of two reasons:

-the tags aren’t fake—you can buy temporary tags from dealerships that are basically just fronts for temp tag sales (see: Texas)

-the tages are fake but you can’t tell—the info isn’t entered into a database so unless you run the VIN you can’t tell the tag isn’t legit. I’d be pretty annoyed if I kept getting pulled over for a VIN check because I have temporary dealer tags. A temp tag isn’t probably cause anyway.

First of all, the tags are absolutely fake. Oftentimes they are absurdly fake, like printed off at home.

Second, these ghost cars are a major problem in fighting crime in the district right now. So take them off the streets. I don’t care if it’s more work for the cops and a possible minor inconvenience for people with legit tags.

Taking them off the street wouldn’t be equitable and the Council legally prohibited the cops from chasing for traffic violations.

Correct. This isn't a rumor we're speculating about. It is explicit and in writing for all to see.

Still waiting for the link to the “explicit” and “in writing” policy on paper tags you keep referring to …

https://twitter.com/JWPascale/status/1577728254013837336

https://ggwash.org/view/88886/fake-tags-are-a-real-problem

I have a feeling you're the kind of person who won't come back and acknowledge that here it is for you to see. What other assumptions are you wrong about? (hint: all of them).

Actually, I’m the OP and I’m trying to get to the root of the problem so I can figure out who to complain to. (My CM is Charles Allen so that’s useless). Looks like they (the mayor?) had a task force that looked at the problem and decided all the proposed solutions would have a disparate impact on people of color. Hard to know whether that’s a smart decision without knowing what was proposed (unless the proposed solutions were “pull over more Black people,” I suspect that decision was misguided).

Of course it was misguided. They basically gave anyone who wanted to free rein to not have a registered vehicle. Once I read that, I started using paper tags to get around speed cameras near my house.

[Anonymous]

I just walked two blocks downtown. I counted SIX paper tags. In TWO BLOCKS.

Nowhere else in the country would put up with this bullsh*t. You would be pulled over and ticketed and your car would be impounded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

You have money and insurance. That person can't afford a tag and insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

Your insurance covers things.

Always amazing the stupidity of some who post here.

Sure, but doesn't that raise my premium?

Yep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just walked two blocks downtown. I counted SIX paper tags. In TWO BLOCKS.

Nowhere else in the country would put up with this bullsh*t. You would be pulled over and ticketed and your car would be impounded.

Washingtonians truly are masochists who don’t think they deserve any better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If someone with paper tags hits me and I have no way to identify them, then what?

You have money and insurance. That person can't afford a tag and insurance.

I realize you’re just a troll but … they can afford to pay for fake tags over and over again so they can commit traffic violations and crimes with impunity.