CA Schools dominate list of world-class institutions attended for fraction of cost of prestigious IVY League schools

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Anonymous wrote:Ivy isn't an acronym and therefore isn't capitalized. GOT IT? If you wouldn't write THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES in all caps, you shouldn't write IVY.

It makes you look like a STRIVER, maybe a FIRST GEN STRIVER or maybe even someone posting from OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.

OP here: The headline is directly from the cited Newspaper which you would have known had you bothered to check before going on your capitalized ignorant rant. You sound like a product of a 3rd rate U.S. educational system.

Why do you capitalize newspaper?

FYI, Daily Mail is a tabloid, not a legit newspaper.

Boom! OP should know better than to cite to it. If you are going to cite to anything use the gold standard which is USNWR.

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Anonymous wrote:California schools have come out on top in a list of world-class education institutions which cost just a fraction of their IVY League rivals.

The universities which run on government funding offer students top-notch education for thousands of dollars less than tuition of prestigious alternatives.

According to Forbes, seven out of 25 universities ranked as the top public schools in the US are located in California, with four being rated in the top five of the list.

University of California, Berkeley, University of California, Los Angeles, University of California, San Diego, and University of California, Santa Barbara, were ranked in the top four.

Criteria for the list included return on investment, student success, student debt and alumni leadership and influence.

Berkeley's alumni include 35 Nobel Prizes recipients, nine of whom are currently faculty members at UC Berkeley.

Although athletic departments are not part of Forbes’ analysis, it should be noted that 121 gold Olympic medals have been awarded to students and alumni, and its teams have won 98 NCAA championships in the school’s history.

UCLA's athletic department on the other hand has been more successful in the NCAA, winning 121 championships and a number one overall pick in almost every major league draft.

Top 25 Public Colleges:

1. University of California, Berkeley

2. University of California, Los Angeles

3. University of California, San Diego

4. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor

5. University of California, Santa Barbara

6. University of Washington, Seattle

7. University of Florida, Gainesville

8. University of Virginia, Charlottesville

9. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

10. University of Texas, Austin

11. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

12. Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta

13. University of Maryland, College Park

14. University of California, Davis

15. University of Wisconsin, Madison

16. San Diego State University

17. Rutgers University, New Brunswick

18. Texas A&M University, College Station

19. Purdue University, West Lafayette

20. Binghamton University

21. University of Georgia, Athens

22. Florida State University, Tallahassee

23. University of California, Irvine

24. Michigan State University, East Lansing

25. North Carolina State University, Raleigh

The racial or cultural population of students on a campus played no role in the Forbes college analysis, but San Diego State is the only California college to have majority students being Hispanic.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12787503/California-schools-dominate-list-world-class-education.html

Perhaps someone else could help me out here, as I only have second-hand information. I understand that the global rankings depend on research coming out of the university rather than on the quality of undergraduate education. My friend in California says it's hard for kids to graduate in four years because they can't always get the classes they need. Those classes fill up, and students have to wait another semester or year to get into them. She also says that first-year and sophomore classes are huge and often have 400 students. Perhaps someone here could comment on those concerns?

What you stated is very accurate. Imo research facilities do not matter much at a large state school for undergrad—your undergrad is not likely to be able to take advantage of that—but at smaller privates undergrads get more opportunities to do research

Also the taking more than 4 years to graduate is accurate—often because you cannot get the classes you need. Many Berkeley kids take the electives they can get into for cs, not the courses they want. Or they take 5 years

My VA kid graduated from Berkeley in 3 years (no summer schools) with a double major. No problem with classes.

CS major or engineering major? Please list your VA kid's major

Computer Science and Economics.

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Our DC is a current student at one of the UC's. The cost of attendance is $72,000 per year for out-of-state. (I presume the OP is a California resident.)

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Speaking to graduating on time at the UCs, most do and it’s partly because they accept a lot of kids with AP credits going in. Registering for classes was not any more difficult for DC #1 at UCLA than for DC #2 at a midsize private school. My oldest DC graduated from UCLA two quarters early because they had so many AP credits.

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As a Califorian, I'm not surprised but I am shocked to see San Diego State ranked above UC Irvine. That seems wildly inaccurate. There are two systems: the UCs and the CSUs. UCs much harder to get into, confer PhDs and have professional schools, i.e., Irvine has a law school. Nothing wrong with CSUs at all and some are extremely hard to get into as a freshman but the ones I've heard this about are Cal Poly SLO and Long Beach. SDSU always had a party school reputation. So either times have changed or this list is wrong.

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My daughter is OOS at UCLA with no aid and paying $60,800 per year (tuition, room and board). It’s a lot cheaper than her siblings’ private schools, which are over $75,000 each. Agree with the PP who said registration time is tough but after drop/add my daughter has gotten the classes she wants and is on track to graduate on time.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is OOS at UCLA with no aid and paying $60,800 per year (tuition, room and board). It’s a lot cheaper than her siblings’ private schools, which are over $75,000 each. Agree with the PP who said registration time is tough but after drop/add my daughter has gotten the classes she wants and is on track to graduate on time.

Website gives 71k cost of attendance for OOS for this year, though it includes 3k health insurance. https://admission.ucla.edu/tuition-aid/tuition-fees

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Anonymous wrote:As a Califorian, I'm not surprised but I am shocked to see San Diego State ranked above UC Irvine. That seems wildly inaccurate. There are two systems: the UCs and the CSUs. UCs much harder to get into, confer PhDs and have professional schools, i.e., Irvine has a law school. Nothing wrong with CSUs at all and some are extremely hard to get into as a freshman but the ones I've heard this about are Cal Poly SLO and Long Beach. SDSU always had a party school reputation. So either times have changed or this list is wrong.

Two points in response: SDSU has always been the flagship non-Poly school in the CSU system. CSULB has not been a peer in that regard, though I’m not sure you were suggesting that in referencing the fact of impacted programs. Second, I believe SDSU is now the only R1 school in the CSU system, which reduces the research gap with the UC programs.

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Our DC is a current student at one of the UC's. The cost of attendance is $72,000 per year for out-of-state. (I presume the OP is a California resident.)

OP here: My family is a VA resident so my kid was OOS.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is OOS at UCLA with no aid and paying $60,800 per year (tuition, room and board). It’s a lot cheaper than her siblings’ private schools, which are over $75,000 each. Agree with the PP who said registration time is tough but after drop/add my daughter has gotten the classes she wants and is on track to graduate on time.

Website gives 71k cost of attendance for OOS for this year, though it includes 3k health insurance. https://admission.ucla.edu/tuition-aid/tuition-fees

Still much cheaper than oos Virginia or Michigan…

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter is OOS at UCLA with no aid and paying $60,800 per year (tuition, room and board). It’s a lot cheaper than her siblings’ private schools, which are over $75,000 each. Agree with the PP who said registration time is tough but after drop/add my daughter has gotten the classes she wants and is on track to graduate on time.

Website gives 71k cost of attendance for OOS for this year, though it includes 3k health insurance. https://admission.ucla.edu/tuition-aid/tuition-fees

Still much cheaper than oos Virginia or Michigan…

Hey, let's not compare apples and oranges here. Let's leave UVA out of this discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Califorian, I'm not surprised but I am shocked to see San Diego State ranked above UC Irvine. That seems wildly inaccurate. There are two systems: the UCs and the CSUs. UCs much harder to get into, confer PhDs and have professional schools, i.e., Irvine has a law school. Nothing wrong with CSUs at all and some are extremely hard to get into as a freshman but the ones I've heard this about are Cal Poly SLO and Long Beach. SDSU always had a party school reputation. So either times have changed or this list is wrong.

Times have not changed---the list is wrong.

My kid has a friend at SDSU. It's still a huge party school. THat's why the friend went there---their main focus was what greek organization they could get into.

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It’s insane to rank SDSU over UC Irvine. If that’s what this list does, it’s not a serious list.

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Anonymous wrote:I love UCSB, but I’m surprised it’s ranked so highly. Better than UVA? Better than UT Austin? I live in CA and wish my kid wanted to go to UCSB, but they want nothing to do with it.

The article cited is from the Daily Mail. Meaning the ranking means nothing. USNWR has UVA at no 5 public in the nation. UCSB at 12. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

+1. A tabloid

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Anonymous wrote:It’s insane to rank SDSU over UC Irvine. If that’s what this list does, it’s not a serious list.

I don’t know why anyone would go to these schools OOS. They’re fantastic choices for those of us who live in CA. But as an OOS student, I would ONLY consider Berkeley, UCLA and UCSB. San Diego State has a commuter vibe.