CA Schools dominate list of world-class institutions attended for fraction of cost of prestigious IVY League schools

Anonymous
California schools have come out on top in a list of world-class education institutions which cost just a fraction of their IVY League rivals.

The universities which run on government funding offer students top-notch education for thousands of dollars less than tuition of prestigious alternatives.

According to Forbes, seven out of 25 universities ranked as the top public schools in the US are located in California, with four being rated in the top five of the list.

University of California, Berkeley, University of California, Los Angeles, University of California, San Diego, and University of California, Santa Barbara, were ranked in the top four.

Criteria for the list included return on investment, student success, student debt and alumni leadership and influence.

Berkeley's alumni include 35 Nobel Prizes recipients, nine of whom are currently faculty members at UC Berkeley.

Although athletic departments are not part of Forbes’ analysis, it should be noted that 121 gold Olympic medals have been awarded to students and alumni, and its teams have won 98 NCAA championships in the school’s history.

UCLA's athletic department on the other hand has been more successful in the NCAA, winning 121 championships and a number one overall pick in almost every major league draft.

Top 25 Public Colleges:

1. University of California, Berkeley

2. University of California, Los Angeles

3. University of California, San Diego

4. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor

5. University of California, Santa Barbara

6. University of Washington, Seattle

7. University of Florida, Gainesville

8. University of Virginia, Charlottesville

9. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

10. University of Texas, Austin

11. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

12. Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta

13. University of Maryland, College Park

14. University of California, Davis

15. University of Wisconsin, Madison

16. San Diego State University

17. Rutgers University, New Brunswick

18. Texas A&M University, College Station

19. Purdue University, West Lafayette

20. Binghamton University

21. University of Georgia, Athens

22. Florida State University, Tallahassee

23. University of California, Irvine

24. Michigan State University, East Lansing

25. North Carolina State University, Raleigh

The racial or cultural population of students on a campus played no role in the Forbes college analysis, but San Diego State is the only California college to have majority students being Hispanic.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12787503/California-schools-dominate-list-world-class-education.html
Anonymous
UC schools are great value for instate. Out of staters play fees comparable to private.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UC schools are great value for instate. Out of staters play fees comparable to private.


And the best ones are still really hard to get into (even in-state).
Anonymous
We visited several UC campus this summer and were super impressed. OOS acceptance rates are quite low, however so it's no sure thing.
Anonymous

How nice. But sometimes kids are set on other institutions.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:UC schools are great value for instate. Out of staters play fees comparable to private.


This. For undergraduates, the class sizes and instructors are much worse than the private colleges. Than there are many CC transfers make the instructors difficult to teach.
Anonymous
I love UCSB, but I’m surprised it’s ranked so highly. Better than UVA? Better than UT Austin? I live in CA and wish my kid wanted to go to UCSB, but they want nothing to do with it.
Anonymous
UVa = 8th
UNC = 11th
UMD/CP = 13th

Plenty of nearby excellent public options, and the real difference between #1 and #10 is tiny, and the real difference between #1 and #15 is still small.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I love UCSB, but I’m surprised it’s ranked so highly. Better than UVA? Better than UT Austin? I live in CA and wish my kid wanted to go to UCSB, but they want nothing to do with it.



The article cited is from the Daily Mail. Meaning the ranking means nothing. USNWR has UVA at no 5 public in the nation. UCSB at 12. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public
Anonymous
Ucla may be great in many ways. My dd is a soph and loves it. But it is costing more oos than either of the other two private colleges her siblings attend. I don’t think the value is there if you have to pay $60,000+ per year
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:California schools have come out on top in a list of world-class education institutions which cost just a fraction of their IVY League rivals.

The universities which run on government funding offer students top-notch education for thousands of dollars less than tuition of prestigious alternatives.

According to Forbes, seven out of 25 universities ranked as the top public schools in the US are located in California, with four being rated in the top five of the list.

University of California, Berkeley, University of California, Los Angeles, University of California, San Diego, and University of California, Santa Barbara, were ranked in the top four.

Criteria for the list included return on investment, student success, student debt and alumni leadership and influence.

Berkeley's alumni include 35 Nobel Prizes recipients, nine of whom are currently faculty members at UC Berkeley.

Although athletic departments are not part of Forbes’ analysis, it should be noted that 121 gold Olympic medals have been awarded to students and alumni, and its teams have won 98 NCAA championships in the school’s history.

UCLA's athletic department on the other hand has been more successful in the NCAA, winning 121 championships and a number one overall pick in almost every major league draft.

Top 25 Public Colleges:

1. University of California, Berkeley

2. University of California, Los Angeles

3. University of California, San Diego

4. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor

5. University of California, Santa Barbara

6. University of Washington, Seattle

7. University of Florida, Gainesville

8. University of Virginia, Charlottesville

9. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

10. University of Texas, Austin

11. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

12. Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta

13. University of Maryland, College Park

14. University of California, Davis

15. University of Wisconsin, Madison

16. San Diego State University

17. Rutgers University, New Brunswick

18. Texas A&M University, College Station

19. Purdue University, West Lafayette

20. Binghamton University

21. University of Georgia, Athens

22. Florida State University, Tallahassee

23. University of California, Irvine

24. Michigan State University, East Lansing

25. North Carolina State University, Raleigh

The racial or cultural population of students on a campus played no role in the Forbes college analysis, but San Diego State is the only California college to have majority students being Hispanic.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12787503/California-schools-dominate-list-world-class-education.html


Perhaps someone else could help me out here, as I only have second-hand information. I understand that the global rankings depend on research coming out of the university rather than on the quality of undergraduate education. My friend in California says it's hard for kids to graduate in four years because they can't always get the classes they need. Those classes fill up, and students have to wait another semester or year to get into them. She also says that first-year and sophomore classes are huge and often have 400 students. Perhaps someone here could comment on those concerns?


Anonymous
No doubt rankings will stay high as class sizes drop as people continue to flee California.
Anonymous
Ivy isn't an acronym and therefore isn't capitalized. GOT IT? If you wouldn't write THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA LOS ANGELES in all caps, you shouldn't write IVY.

It makes you look like a STRIVER, maybe a FIRST GEN STRIVER or maybe even someone posting from OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES.
Anonymous
San Diego State shouldn't be this high on any list that doesn't involve partying or hot girlz. One spot below UW-Madison in an academic ranking? Laughable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:San Diego State shouldn't be this high on any list that doesn't involve partying or hot girlz. One spot below UW-Madison in an academic ranking? Laughable.


I would have agreed as little as 3 - 5 years ago, but the test blind system has flooded SDSU with accelerating demand. There are many applicants who are being accepted by nearby UCSD (which is several clicks above UW - Madison in any academic comparison) but being rejected by SDSU.

It doesn't make a ton of sense to me (especially considering the way that applicants are screened in the CSU system, without test scores, EC details, or LORs), but it's rocketing SDSU up a lot of lists. And now with R1 status unlocked, it's unlikely to slow.
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