Visiting high reaches

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Anonymous wrote:I can't help but think it's a waste of time and money. Thoughts?

The biggest risk is that your DC will become too invested in colleges that they have very low Chances of being admitted to.

I wish we had visited fewer high reaches even though they all sent lots of marketing materials and even set up alumni interviews as DC was very high stat kid (as many are).

I would just do virtual tours for high reaches …

Not a risk if you make sure your kid knows that certain schools are Lotteries for everyone. I'd make sure they know that even if they don't visit. Always good to have kid focus on targets and safeties and ensure they have several that they really love. Because 98% chance they are attending one of those.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

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Anonymous wrote:Visited Harvard. Disappointed and not impressed. It was immediately dropped from consideration. It's not a waste. Helps to narrow the list and realize things you may never have learned without an in-person visit.

Ha ha ha. I’m sure Harvard was devastated.

It really isn't for everyone. The campus is so-so. And then there are all the tourists. Harvard Square isn't what it used to be. And the school is clearly focused on its graduate programs. A visit is a good thing to do to make things clear. For a good undergrad experience, Harvard is not where it's at for a lot of smart kids. Visits are clarifying

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My engineering kid visited Cornell and wanted to like it. But just couldn't. The campus is in the middle of nowhere (we are not east coast)---the drive from Boston with stops in NY at various schools showed us it truly was middle of nowhere. They were not giving tours, were not helpful with any questions, just had a "we don't care attitude---our acceptance rate is single digits and we don't need you to apply" Did not get anyone who was helpful on the tour, the students on campus (it was summer) did not seem "happy". So for my kid, it helped make decision to not apply.
We did 10 campuses in a week, and this was by far the "worst experience" short of "Troy NY sucks and no way in Hell am I living in this town for 4 years" (I agree Ithaca is a much better college town).

That was our experience at Cornell as well, both in person and with one of their webinars. My son still wants to apply, but I'm not encouraging it.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Edward Blum is a white supremacist. You are the company you keep.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

I’m an American.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

I’m an American.

You may be, but that is the psychology behind the argument.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

It’s ok for American colleges to be racist?

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

I’m an American.

You may be, but that is the psychology behind the argument.

What’s so special about American college admissions? Racist?

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

I’m an American.

You may be, but that is the psychology behind the argument.

What’s so special about American college admissions? Racist?

You can engage in wordplay all you want, but to say an Asian student applying to college is “disadvantaged” or has the “deck stacked against them” is absurd and lacking in insight and almost insensitive when compared to kids who really have the deck stacked against them. I would include in that group recent child migrants who have no idea how difficult life will be for them as undocumented people.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

I’m an American.

You may be, but that is the psychology behind the argument.

What’s so special about American college admissions? Racist?

You can engage in wordplay all you want, but to say an Asian student applying to college is “disadvantaged” or has the “deck stacked against them” is absurd and lacking in insight and almost insensitive when compared to kids who really have the deck stacked against them. I would include in that group recent child migrants who have no idea how difficult life will be for them as undocumented people.

SCOTUS disagreed with you and found Harvard etc racist. Stop wasting your time spinning your racist practice.

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Anonymous wrote:We went to a few ivies because the DDs school admissions officer thought she should and DD decided that she didn’t like the vibe, or the size, and didn’t apply to any Ivies. Asian kid, 1 year pre Supreme Court decision, so the deck was stacked again and she really didn’t stand a chance. Better for her that she didn’t set her heart on it. So visiting some Ivies WAS helpful, in a backwards way.

Your child doesn’t have the deck stacked against her. Going to Binghamton instead of Yale isn’t a hardship. There are kids who really have the deck stacked against them - born into generational poverty, a parent with substance abuse, a parent incarcerated, violent homes/communities, homeless, food insecure. Just stop already.

and yet those who got in the ivies are Nigerian doctor’s kids and Obama’s daughters instead of kids you mentioned. When are we gonna stop lying about “equity “?

Even if those kids don't get into Yale or Harvard, it is THOSE kids who have life stacked against them. Majority of kids on DCUM (ie parents posting on DCUM) are privileged and don't really know what it's like to experience a rough, challenging life and to have the deck of life stacked against them. the fact their parent is concerned about what college they attend shows they have the support to go far in life.

So what’s wrong for PP to claim the unfair disadvantage by ivies? Only one group of people can be disadvantaged?

Just because American college admissions isn’t like college admissions in your country of origin doesn’t make it “unfair”.

I’m an American.

You may be, but that is the psychology behind the argument.

What’s so special about American college admissions? Racist?

You can engage in wordplay all you want, but to say an Asian student applying to college is “disadvantaged” or has the “deck stacked against them” is absurd and lacking in insight and almost insensitive when compared to kids who really have the deck stacked against them. I would include in that group recent child migrants who have no idea how difficult life will be for them as undocumented people.

This.

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My '21 got in to quite a few "high reaches" and we made 4 trips in March/April, 3 to admitted student days and 1 independent. Well worth it at that point, but we considered trips to be a waste of money until she was in.