Why does the left no longer seem to care about health, chemicals in foods, Big Pharma, etc?

[Anonymous]

A couple possible reasons:

1. Climate change has basically cornered the environmental market on the left.
2. The elephant in the room is the birth-control pill, which is a sacred-elephant for the left. You can't talk about hormones, water quality or the influence of Big Pharma without eventually landing on the pill as a problem.
3. Inability to define some of the problems created, as actual problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A couple possible reasons:

1. Climate change has basically cornered the environmental market on the left.
2. The elephant in the room is the birth-control pill, which is a sacred-elephant for the left. You can't talk about hormones, water quality or the influence of Big Pharma without eventually landing on the pill as a problem.
3. Inability to define some of the problems created, as actual problems.

Are you trying to give reasons for OP's false premise? Interesting trick.

[Anonymous]

OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

Plus nobody cares about pollution as long as it stays in China and Mexico. When we can just print money and get the products of far away pollution that’s a pretty good (temporary) deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

Let's be 100% clear that ONLY ONE party actively reviled any attempt at trying to get people to eat more healthy foods: The GOP. They viciously attacked Michele Obama for trying to get healthier school lunches and defiantly promoted things like guzzling massive quantities of high fructose corn syrup ly aaden Big Gulp sodas.

Let's also be 100% clear that the GOP is also the only party that has no problem with bankrupting Americans if they have a health emergency, or to leave them out in the cold if they can't afford insurance or healthcare.

[Anonymous]

^ corn-syrup laden Big Gulps because 'Murica!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left does. Most of us are making personal choices that reflect that.

It's just we are trying to make sure democracy actually survives right now,.which seems to be the most pressing concern.

If your air and water are poisoned there is little you can do with "personal choices". Even if you grow your own food. Vast majority buy some sort of prepared food, not many cook from scratch or are very picky about reading the list of ingredients or buying organic (which is out of reach for many people anyway). Your kids can eat anything they want when you aren't there, smth you also cannot control. There is a need for regulations and honesty for sure, personal choices only take you this far.

You don't sound very well informed pp.

Republicans wish to rear down all regulatory government and let the corporations do what they want.

Democrats want to keep regulations going so we can regulate what's in the environment.

And Democrats also want to keep democracy and the Republic going as well as the regulations to prevent the running of the environment.

Can't have a clean environment if you don't have regulations and regulators, can't have those if you don't have democracy.

In the meantime, while Democrats fight Republicans to keep toxic substances out of the environment, as well as uphold democracy, I also like to make my own better choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

Even if you take care of yourself there are things out of your control. There are healthy people and young people dropping dead, some professional athletes. Infant mortality rates in our 1st world country aren't looking good either. And no, I don't think it's Covid or Covid vax that's killing them. It's not obesity, heart disease, diabetes either, not always cancer either. Although apparently cancer rates are up. This has been happening for a while. And testosterone levels in our young men are dropping, but maybe some welcome this as a positive change against "toxic masculinity".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left does. Most of us are making personal choices that reflect that.

It's just we are trying to make sure democracy actually survives right now,.which seems to be the most pressing concern.

If your air and water are poisoned there is little you can do with "personal choices". Even if you grow your own food. Vast majority buy some sort of prepared food, not many cook from scratch or are very picky about reading the list of ingredients or buying organic (which is out of reach for many people anyway). Your kids can eat anything they want when you aren't there, smth you also cannot control. There is a need for regulations and honesty for sure, personal choices only take you this far.

You don't sound very well informed pp.

Republicans wish to rear down all regulatory government and let the corporations do what they want.

Democrats want to keep regulations going so we can regulate what's in the environment.

And Democrats also want to keep democracy and the Republic going as well as the regulations to prevent the running of the environment.

Can't have a clean environment if you don't have regulations and regulators, can't have those if you don't have democracy.

In the meantime, while Democrats fight Republicans to keep toxic substances out of the environment, as well as uphold democracy, I also like to make my own better choices.

Down with regulations! Who cares if your meat is full of parasites, your vegetables full of toxic pesticides, who cares if your canned goods are full of botulism, and so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

Let's be 100% clear that ONLY ONE party actively reviled any attempt at trying to get people to eat more healthy foods: The GOP. They viciously attacked Michele Obama for trying to get healthier school lunches and defiantly promoted things like guzzling massive quantities of high fructose corn syrup ly aaden Big Gulp sodas.

Let's also be 100% clear that the GOP is also the only party that has no problem with bankrupting Americans if they have a health emergency, or to leave them out in the cold if they can't afford insurance or healthcare.

You can't legislate health. While life is risky, there's really only one person who can make the odds in your favor, and that's you. Government intervention in this area has only resulted in more obesity and illness. People do *not* like to hear this. But the only person who can make you healthy is you.

Did the GOP make the Big Gulp a thing? Yes. I don't know why, but they did. Does the Democratic Party have a large contingent that espouses "healthy at all sizes" thinking? Yes, they do. I don't know how much clearer it can be that politicians want you to be fat, sad, gender confused, and seeking help from Big Pharma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

Let's be 100% clear that ONLY ONE party actively reviled any attempt at trying to get people to eat more healthy foods: The GOP. They viciously attacked Michele Obama for trying to get healthier school lunches and defiantly promoted things like guzzling massive quantities of high fructose corn syrup ly aaden Big Gulp sodas.

Let's also be 100% clear that the GOP is also the only party that has no problem with bankrupting Americans if they have a health emergency, or to leave them out in the cold if they can't afford insurance or healthcare.

You can't legislate health. While life is risky, there's really only one person who can make the odds in your favor, and that's you. Government intervention in this area has only resulted in more obesity and illness. People do *not* like to hear this. But the only person who can make you healthy is you.

Did the GOP make the Big Gulp a thing? Yes. I don't know why, but they did. Does the Democratic Party have a large contingent that espouses "healthy at all sizes" thinking? Yes, they do. I don't know how much clearer it can be that politicians want you to be fat, sad, gender confused, and seeking help from Big Pharma.

Doesn’t Europe have much more regulation on food and drugs? People there aren’t fat like they are here. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the government’s role in this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, health and wellness isn't that popular. It takes work-- healthy eating habits, working out etc. Body positivity + drugs to control things like diabetes pays better. No one makes any money off healthy people. Of course politicians don't want to tell everyone to take care of themselves. Their whole appeal is that they claim they can fix problems.

Let's be 100% clear that ONLY ONE party actively reviled any attempt at trying to get people to eat more healthy foods: The GOP. They viciously attacked Michele Obama for trying to get healthier school lunches and defiantly promoted things like guzzling massive quantities of high fructose corn syrup ly aaden Big Gulp sodas.

Let's also be 100% clear that the GOP is also the only party that has no problem with bankrupting Americans if they have a health emergency, or to leave them out in the cold if they can't afford insurance or healthcare.

You can't legislate health. While life is risky, there's really only one person who can make the odds in your favor, and that's you. Government intervention in this area has only resulted in more obesity and illness. People do *not* like to hear this. But the only person who can make you healthy is you.

Did the GOP make the Big Gulp a thing? Yes. I don't know why, but they did. Does the Democratic Party have a large contingent that espouses "healthy at all sizes" thinking? Yes, they do. I don't know how much clearer it can be that politicians want you to be fat, sad, gender confused, and seeking help from Big Pharma.

Doesn’t Europe have much more regulation on food and drugs? People there aren’t fat like they are here. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the government’s role in this.

Their overweight and obesity rates have risen dramatically. So whatever they are doing isn't working.

[Anonymous]

OP is right. The left cares more about being fat-positive and body-inclusive than it does about regulating the things that cause obesity

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is right. The left cares more about being fat-positive and body-inclusive than it does about regulating the things that cause obesity

What does the right do to regulate the things that cause obesity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The left does. Most of us are making personal choices that reflect that.

It's just we are trying to make sure democracy actually survives right now,.which seems to be the most pressing concern.

If your air and water are poisoned there is little you can do with "personal choices". Even if you grow your own food. Vast majority buy some sort of prepared food, not many cook from scratch or are very picky about reading the list of ingredients or buying organic (which is out of reach for many people anyway). Your kids can eat anything they want when you aren't there, smth you also cannot control. There is a need for regulations and honesty for sure, personal choices only take you this far.

You don't sound very well informed pp.

Republicans wish to rear down all regulatory government and let the corporations do what they want.

Democrats want to keep regulations going so we can regulate what's in the environment.

And Democrats also want to keep democracy and the Republic going as well as the regulations to prevent the running of the environment.

Can't have a clean environment if you don't have regulations and regulators, can't have those if you don't have democracy.

In the meantime, while Democrats fight Republicans to keep toxic substances out of the environment, as well as uphold democracy, I also like to make my own better choices.

Down with regulations! Who cares if your meat is full of parasites, your vegetables full of toxic pesticides, who cares if your canned goods are full of botulism, and so on.

Pretty much the whole GOP position.