Worst colleges in US

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Anonymous wrote:So many of these colleges are "where Black people go" so I'm guessing it's veiled racism


Then what do you call all the majority white colleges that also have low scores? We'll wait.
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Anonymous wrote:So many of these colleges are "where Black people go" so I'm guessing it's veiled racism


Which ones of these colleges are known for being dominated by black people?


2. Alabama State University 14.4
4. Clark Atlanta University 13.2
6. Grambling State
11. Central State University 10.1
15. South Carolina State University 9.6
16. Tuskegee University 9.5
17. Texas Southern University 9.4
19. Bethune-Cookman University 9.0
21. Alcorn State University 8.


HBCUs are known to have low graduation rates.

Even the "top" ones like Howard, Morehouse and Spellman have relatively low graduation rates.


Why is that?


I don’t think those schools have graduation rates that are out of line with the student qualifications.

For example, Howard has a 6 year graduation rate of 66%, an average HS GPA of 3.66, and an SAT range of 1100-1270.

The University of Arizona (just picked because it has similar entering student characteristics) has a 62% 6 year graduation rate, HS GPA of 3.53 and an SAT range of 1140-1240. These are almost identical.

Some of the other HBCUs have students with drastically lower entering statistics. For example, Bethune-Cookman has an average SAT of 800 and HS GPA of 2.9. An SAT score of 800 indicates that the student isn’t ready for college, and the graduation rates reflect this.


Do you think the colleges could do more to help the students at the HBUC graduate at higher rates ?


Not sure how much you can help someone with an 800 SAT and 2.9 GPA. That’s not college material, and half the class scored lower.
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Perhaps the Georgetown reference was to Georgetown College in Kentucky?
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Anonymous wrote:So many of these colleges are "where Black people go" so I'm guessing it's veiled racism


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And there are several well respected fine arts schools, like Berkelee and SCAD. Spoiler alert: colleges that educate engineers vs exclusively artists/ musicians should not be judged by the same standards.


Thinking the same. SVA as well.
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Anonymous wrote:Also known as : list of schools I’ve never heard of


Tuskegee?
SCAD?

Wow. Ignorant about multiple types of schools. Most people aren’t so open about their ignorance.
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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps the Georgetown reference was to Georgetown College in Kentucky?

No, Georgetown was explicitly linked to DC. PP is just a troll. No modestly informed adult (or even a teenager) would believe Georgetown has a 45% graduation rate.
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Anonymous wrote:So many of these colleges are "where Black people go" so I'm guessing it's veiled racism


Which ones of these colleges are known for being dominated by black people?


2. Alabama State University 14.4
4. Clark Atlanta University 13.2
6. Grambling State
11. Central State University 10.1
15. South Carolina State University 9.6
16. Tuskegee University 9.5
17. Texas Southern University 9.4
19. Bethune-Cookman University 9.0
21. Alcorn State University 8.

Claflin is also an HBCU.
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Wheelock College closed in 2018. The campus is now part of Boston University. They are using outdated information.
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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps the Georgetown reference was to Georgetown College in Kentucky?

No, Georgetown was explicitly linked to DC. PP is just a troll. No modestly informed adult (or even a teenager) would believe Georgetown has a 45% graduation rate.


PP already questioned that and OP already queried the validity of first ranking as dubious except for some of the considerations raised about what makes school not worth the hefty tuition costs. OP made it clear that the second ranking was the more valid one.
The point was to think about what contributes to low graduation rates and bad colleges in general .
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Anonymous wrote:Wheelock College. closed in 2018. The campus is now part of Boston University. They are using outdated information.


Interesting since it was published this month!
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What is Purdue University Global? How is High Point not on this list?
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Wesley College doesn’t operate on its own anymore, either. It was acquired by Delaware State a couple years ago.

This list is absolute garbage
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Anonymous wrote:A more consistent ranking for worst US colleges was prepared by Degree Choices and relied on government data.

These are the 42 worst colleges in America 2023

Degree Choices measured college economic performance and graduation rates to create its list of the worst universities. They claim
* Outrageously low earnings after graduation
* Alumni who are in debt for most of their lives
* Disturbingly low graduation rates
University name Economic score
1. Berklee College of Music 20.9
2. Alabama State University 14.4
3. Florida National University 14.0
4. Clark Atlanta University 13.2
5. Herzing University, Madison 12.1
6. Grambling State University 11.9
7. Keiser University, Ft Lauderdale 11.9
8. Academy of Art University 11.8
9. Benedict College 11.1
10. Claflin University 10.3
11. Central State University 10.1
12. New England College 10.1
13. Savannah College of Art and Design 9.7
14. Sullivan University 9.7
15. South Carolina State University 9.6
16. Tuskegee University 9.5
17. Texas Southern University 9.4
18. School of Visual Arts 9.3
19. Bethune-Cookman University 9.0
20. ECPI University 8.8
21. Alcorn State University 8.


No Wake?

or Northeastern?

Cornell is missing!
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Anonymous wrote:So many of these colleges are "where Black people go" so I'm guessing it's veiled racism


Which ones of these colleges are known for being dominated by black people?


2. Alabama State University 14.4
4. Clark Atlanta University 13.2
6. Grambling State
11. Central State University 10.1
15. South Carolina State University 9.6
16. Tuskegee University 9.5
17. Texas Southern University 9.4
19. Bethune-Cookman University 9.0
21. Alcorn State University 8.


HBCUs are known to have low graduation rates.

Even the "top" ones like Howard, Morehouse and Spellman have relatively low graduation rates.


Why is that?

Lots of HBCUs have an outreach/community service component to their mission to help support/uplift others who have fewer opportunities. If they're bringing in under-prepared students to help them, that will show up in their statistics. But it doesn't mean the quality is lower, just that they can accept and accommodate a wider range of students.
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In light of several posters point out basic info that’s wrong with this ranking, I hope people can let this group’s ranking go. They clearly aren’t reputable as a source.

And I can’t believe I have to say this, but Trump University wasn’t a university. It was a business seminar like what shady real estate investors give at hotels. That’s how it really started - a guy with a hotel seminar paid Trump to use his name. No degrees.

I thought people were smarter than this.
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