Please explain to me why Arab countries are not taking in Palestinians

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Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.

Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.

Much easier to just do a one state solution and let everyone in Gaza vote. Hell Bibi practically had Hamas in his cabinet. You could just increase taxes in Israel to pay for the re integration of the Palestinian of Gaza.

That would mean Palestinians would likely gain control of the Knesset and the fate of Jews in our only state would be in their hands.

Surrounding Arab states would see an immediate opportunity to attack and take control, putting Jews at even further risk.

We would have to pray they treated us well in all of that.

Isn’t some of that pure speculation

Not in the least. There are more Palestinians than Jews in Israel, Gaza, and the West Bank. It doesn’t take much to control the Knesset. Bibi did it with 23% of the vote.

As for surrounding Arab states: they have attacked Israel at every opportunity. If they saw rising Palestinian political power in Israel, they’d absolutely take advantage. Hell, Syria and Lebanon are exploiting it now. Iran has been trying to years with Hamas.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.

Palestinians can migrate into Israel. It’s hard but not impossible.

The notion that Gaza is a prison is wrong. They have been deprived of certain critical infrastructure, but they absolutely can leave.

Very, very few of them.

More restrictive movement is recent and coincided with Israel withdrawing from Gaza following Hamas’s victory.

One cannot talk about deteriorating conditions in Gaza without talking about Hamas.

Gaza before 2006 was very different than Gaza afterwards.

Do you know who supported Hamas’s rise to power? It was Netanyahu.

This is wrong. Netanyahu used Hamas to divide Palestinians after they were elected, but he did not support their rise. He wasn’t even PM when they were elected.

No it is true. You just do not want to believe it. He supported their rise, supported funding, increased work permits, gave them control of Gaza and allowed money to flow to them. You need to understand the history of the regions.

Netanyahu wants the West Bank not Gaza. He needed troops and resources to expand settlements there. Though Netanyahu tried to do the same with ISIS on the West Bank.

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad…

Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.

Meanwhile, Israel has allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip.

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2018, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

While Netanyahu does not make these kind of statements publicly or officially, his words are in line with the policy that he implemented.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

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So what would it take for Israelis and Palestinians to live together in peace?
The current situation is unsustainable, building more illegal settlements is not the way

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.

Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.

I'll read up on it but have you looked at this: https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Ethnic-cleansing.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.

Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.

I agree with this. As I turn it over and over in my mind, Palestine/Palestinian the concept, is a failed state and a failed peoples because of Hamas and because nobody can vet and there are no places for them to go. It's terrible and sad. Do the women having so many babies with men who may or may not be terrorist suppressors have a choice? It seems large families are encouraged and not for any good reason. Just to have more human shields and tragedy.

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To the people that commented that Iranians are not Arabs. . . Why is Iran supporting the Palestinian cause if they have no cultural or religious connection to Palestinian people? Why not take in at least the innocent Palestinian civilians before funding Hamas when you know there will be retaliation?

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Anonymous wrote:To the people that commented that Iranians are not Arabs. . . Why is Iran supporting the Palestinian cause if they have no cultural or religious connection to Palestinian people? Why not take in at least the innocent Palestinian civilians before funding Hamas when you know there will be retaliation?

1) The Iranian regime is barely holding onto power; 2) Palestinians are Sunni Muslims and/or Christians; 3) Iran itself is subject to a crippling embargo and cannot take care of its own citizens; 4) logistics of transferring them; 5) Persians in general do not like Arabs.

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.

Palestinians can migrate into Israel. It’s hard but not impossible.

The notion that Gaza is a prison is wrong. They have been deprived of certain critical infrastructure, but they absolutely can leave.

Very, very few of them.

More restrictive movement is recent and coincided with Israel withdrawing from Gaza following Hamas’s victory.

One cannot talk about deteriorating conditions in Gaza without talking about Hamas.

Gaza before 2006 was very different than Gaza afterwards.

Do you know who supported Hamas’s rise to power? It was Netanyahu.

This is wrong. Netanyahu used Hamas to divide Palestinians after they were elected, but he did not support their rise. He wasn’t even PM when they were elected.

No it is true. You just do not want to believe it. He supported their rise, supported funding, increased work permits, gave them control of Gaza and allowed money to flow to them. You need to understand the history of the regions.

Netanyahu wants the West Bank not Gaza. He needed troops and resources to expand settlements there. Though Netanyahu tried to do the same with ISIS on the West Bank.

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad…

Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.

Meanwhile, Israel has allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip.

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2018, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

While Netanyahu does not make these kind of statements publicly or officially, his words are in line with the policy that he implemented.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Yes, after he got into power. He wasn’t PM when they were elected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.

Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.

I'll read up on it but have you looked at this: https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/INTERACTIVE-Ethnic-cleansing.png?w=770&resize=770%2C770&quality=80

Completely inaccurate map, starting with the fact that Jews made up 40% of the population in Mandatory Palestine, not 6%.

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Anonymous wrote:To the people that commented that Iranians are not Arabs. . . Why is Iran supporting the Palestinian cause if they have no cultural or religious connection to Palestinian people? Why not take in at least the innocent Palestinian civilians before funding Hamas when you know there will be retaliation?

Really? Because they want Israel annihilated.

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Anonymous wrote:To the people that commented that Iranians are not Arabs. . . Why is Iran supporting the Palestinian cause if they have no cultural or religious connection to Palestinian people? Why not take in at least the innocent Palestinian civilians before funding Hamas when you know there will be retaliation?

Iranians hate Israel as much as they hate Palestinians. Palestinians are simply sacks of meat to be used to advance their terrorism.

[Anonymous]

why is the administration not talking about going in to get our hostages? Lets just give them another 6 B and get this over with.

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Anonymous wrote:To the people that commented that Iranians are not Arabs. . . Why is Iran supporting the Palestinian cause if they have no cultural or religious connection to Palestinian people? Why not take in at least the innocent Palestinian civilians before funding Hamas when you know there will be retaliation?

Iranians hate Israel as much as they hate Palestinians. Palestinians are simply sacks of meat to be used to advance their terrorism.

So Iran is using Hamas as their proxy warriors against Israel? This sounds plausible, but does US have proof?

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Anonymous wrote:To the people that commented that Iranians are not Arabs. . . Why is Iran supporting the Palestinian cause if they have no cultural or religious connection to Palestinian people? Why not take in at least the innocent Palestinian civilians before funding Hamas when you know there will be retaliation?

Iranians hate Israel as much as they hate Palestinians. Palestinians are simply sacks of meat to be used to advance their terrorism.

So Iran is using Hamas as their proxy warriors against Israel? This sounds plausible, but does US have proof?

Umm … you need to read about this more. This has been well known for decades.

Start with this: https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/hamas-and-israel-irans-role

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Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.

Arabs are not one people, any more than Europeans are. Pan-arabism, the notion that they work together for a common good, only really exists to the extent that there is a common enemy such as the Ottomans or Persians, and at one time Israel. But these countries have their own distinct interests.