Please explain to me why Arab countries are not taking in Palestinians

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.


Palestinians can migrate into Israel. It’s hard but not impossible.

The notion that Gaza is a prison is wrong. They have been deprived of certain critical infrastructure, but they absolutely can leave.


Very, very few of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.


1)Many of the Palestinians were forced off their land by the creation of Israel. They hope to return to the land that was taken from them. They do not want to leave and give up claim to the land that. It is similar to the Cuban in Miami still claiming land in Cuba.

2)If the surrounding countries took in the Palestinians it removes Israel responsibilities and moral obligation to the people it’s displaced to creat Israel. Plus Israel has not allow Palestinians to return to any of the occupied territories or to Israel once they leave.

3) Gaza and the other occupied territories are basically refugee camps. The surrounding countries do not want refugees camps. Once the camp is not in Israel the little aid received will be cut off.

4) Gaza has 2 million people. Logistically practically impossible - feed, sanitation, medical support, supplies, water, etc. Try force marching 2 million people with all their belongings to another country through a desert. What do you do when you cross the border? Do you set up camps there or marching them to the first city? That city is Arish(population 200k). Arish would have problems supporting an additional 50k. After that is all uninhabited desert desert.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Outside of Jordan, most Arab nations aren't open to refugees. They're not taking Palestinians for the same reason they didn't take afghanis. And, speaking of Jordan-it has a massive refugee problem. Its economy can't support the ones they've got...and that's not even looking at the security issues from the camps.


Afghans, not Afghanis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.


Palestinians can migrate into Israel. It’s hard but not impossible.

The notion that Gaza is a prison is wrong. They have been deprived of certain critical infrastructure, but they absolutely can leave.


Very, very few of them.


More restrictive movement is recent and coincided with Israel withdrawing from Gaza following Hamas’s victory.

One cannot talk about deteriorating conditions in Gaza without talking about Hamas.

Gaza before 2006 was very different than Gaza afterwards.
Anonymous
The countries that have taken the most Palestinian refugees have had leaders assassinated (Egypt) failed attempts to overthrow the government (Jordan) or been driven into civil war (Lebanon). No one wants them
Anonymous
they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.
Anonymous
Here’s what Israel would point to as to why allowing freer movement is a problem:

In the 90s, Israel allowed three safe passages between Gaza and the West Bank. That lasted less than a year. Guess what stopped it? The Second Intifada. Ariel Sharon visited Al Aqsa Mosque. Didn’t do anything but visit it. That prompted the Second Intifada.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.


Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.


Palestinians can migrate into Israel. It’s hard but not impossible.

The notion that Gaza is a prison is wrong. They have been deprived of certain critical infrastructure, but they absolutely can leave.


Very, very few of them.


More restrictive movement is recent and coincided with Israel withdrawing from Gaza following Hamas’s victory.

One cannot talk about deteriorating conditions in Gaza without talking about Hamas.

Gaza before 2006 was very different than Gaza afterwards.


Do you know who supported Hamas’s rise to power? It was Netanyahu.
Anonymous
I will add: after the Second Intifada ended in 2005, Israel re-established safe passage routes.

That ended when Hamas was elected.

Gaza is a prison now. It has not always been a prison. Hamas played a huge role in making it a prison. Not the entire role, but a huge role.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am asking this question with genuine curiosity. Arab countries such as Egypt and Iran — why have they not been supportive of taking the 2.5 million Palestinians crowded together on the “open air prison” of Gaza to their countries? All you see when you look at the maps of the Middle East is so much land.

Please don’t say it’s because Palestinians don’t want to leave Gaza. I’ve been learning more about Palestinians in Gaza and they’re restricted from the ability to migrate. Why? I just don’t understand.


Palestinians can migrate into Israel. It’s hard but not impossible.

The notion that Gaza is a prison is wrong. They have been deprived of certain critical infrastructure, but they absolutely can leave.


Very, very few of them.


More restrictive movement is recent and coincided with Israel withdrawing from Gaza following Hamas’s victory.

One cannot talk about deteriorating conditions in Gaza without talking about Hamas.

Gaza before 2006 was very different than Gaza afterwards.


Do you know who supported Hamas’s rise to power? It was Netanyahu.


This is wrong. Netanyahu used Hamas to divide Palestinians after they were elected, but he did not support their rise. He wasn’t even PM when they were elected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.


Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.


Much easier to just do a one state solution and let everyone in Gaza vote. Hell Bibi practically had Hamas in his cabinet. You could just increase taxes in Israel to pay for the re integration of the Palestinian of Gaza.
Anonymous
Do you owe someone something just because they have the same religion as you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.


Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.


Much easier to just do a one state solution and let everyone in Gaza vote. Hell Bibi practically had Hamas in his cabinet. You could just increase taxes in Israel to pay for the re integration of the Palestinian of Gaza.


That would mean Palestinians would likely gain control of the Knesset and the fate of Jews in our only state would be in their hands.

Surrounding Arab states would see an immediate opportunity to attack and take control, putting Jews at even further risk.

We would have to pray they treated us well in all of that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:they can only go south to Egypt right? There are no routes, no airport etc etc. hence they say they are in an open air prison, they certainly not able to cross into israel free before or after this incident. looks like the people there are screwed, hamas members or not.


Safe passage routes used to exist. Movement was much freer before Hamas took over.

Please read the history on this.


Much easier to just do a one state solution and let everyone in Gaza vote. Hell Bibi practically had Hamas in his cabinet. You could just increase taxes in Israel to pay for the re integration of the Palestinian of Gaza.


That would mean Palestinians would likely gain control of the Knesset and the fate of Jews in our only state would be in their hands.

Surrounding Arab states would see an immediate opportunity to attack and take control, putting Jews at even further risk.

We would have to pray they treated us well in all of that.

Isn’t some of that pure speculation
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