Kat Von D renounces occult and gets baptized

[Anonymous]

I agree with others that certain personalities just go to extremes in a search for their identity and as a cure for their inner sense of dread. They look for external sources of authority who can reassure them and provide the psychological framework they seem to lack. And while becoming Christian seems like a good thing to westerners steeped in a biblical interpretation of good vs evil, I think it's correct to see it as swinging from one extreme to the other. It's just a different cult. I hope she finds inner peace eventually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with others that certain personalities just go to extremes in a search for their identity and as a cure for their inner sense of dread. They look for external sources of authority who can reassure them and provide the psychological framework they seem to lack. And while becoming Christian seems like a good thing to westerners steeped in a biblical interpretation of good vs evil, I think it's correct to see it as swinging from one extreme to the other. It's just a different cult. I hope she finds inner peace eventually.

Are you the poster who would rather have their aunt die than become a Christian?

Why would you rather have your aunt die in the streets, in a drug house, etc, alone and addicted to drugs (what what was your aunt addicted to? Heroin? Meth? Pills?)

Let’s be real: anyone who wishes a family member would die from an overdose rather than doing a 12 step program, becoming Christian, and saving their life is a selfish bigot who has either sociopathic or pathological (or both) tendencies.

anyone who would admit freely to others that yeah, piss off and die Aunt Sally, I’ll gladly see you face down in an alley with a needle in your arm before you get clean and live a happy, productive, drug free life is really awful and evil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with others that certain personalities just go to extremes in a search for their identity and as a cure for their inner sense of dread. They look for external sources of authority who can reassure them and provide the psychological framework they seem to lack. And while becoming Christian seems like a good thing to westerners steeped in a biblical interpretation of good vs evil, I think it's correct to see it as swinging from one extreme to the other. It's just a different cult. I hope she finds inner peace eventually.

Are you the poster who would rather have their aunt die than become a Christian?

Why would you rather have your aunt die in the streets, in a drug house, etc, alone and addicted to drugs (what what was your aunt addicted to? Heroin? Meth? Pills?)

Let’s be real: anyone who wishes a family member would die from an overdose rather than doing a 12 step program, becoming Christian, and saving their life is a selfish bigot who has either sociopathic or pathological (or both) tendencies.

anyone who would admit freely to others that yeah, piss off and die Aunt Sally, I’ll gladly see you face down in an alley with a needle in your arm before you get clean and live a happy, productive, drug free life is really awful and evil.

Yeah, I wouldn't phrase it as shrilly, but basically this. PP who wants Aunt Sally to die rather than become a Christian is one sick puppy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with others that certain personalities just go to extremes in a search for their identity and as a cure for their inner sense of dread. They look for external sources of authority who can reassure them and provide the psychological framework they seem to lack. And while becoming Christian seems like a good thing to westerners steeped in a biblical interpretation of good vs evil, I think it's correct to see it as swinging from one extreme to the other. It's just a different cult. I hope she finds inner peace eventually.

Are you the poster who would rather have their aunt die than become a Christian?

Why would you rather have your aunt die in the streets, in a drug house, etc, alone and addicted to drugs (what what was your aunt addicted to? Heroin? Meth? Pills?)

Let’s be real: anyone who wishes a family member would die from an overdose rather than doing a 12 step program, becoming Christian, and saving their life is a selfish bigot who has either sociopathic or pathological (or both) tendencies.

anyone who would admit freely to others that yeah, piss off and die Aunt Sally, I’ll gladly see you face down in an alley with a needle in your arm before you get clean and live a happy, productive, drug free life is really awful and evil.

Yeah, I wouldn't phrase it as shrilly, but basically this. PP who wants Aunt Sally to die rather than become a Christian is one sick puppy.

Yeah, that was a pretty harsh read, but imagine what kind of person admits their aunt was addicted to drugs and didn’t have a long time to live, and that they’d rather auntie stay addicted and die than get healthy and live longer and be happy?

Honestly one of the worst things I have ever seen posted on dcum.

The gross disregard for human life of a family member because they saved their own life. Unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if someone posted that they’d rather have their family member die than become an atheist, what the reaction would be here?

I can imagine people would be outraged that a Christian would be so cold/crazy/cruel to prefer a dead relative to an alive and healthy atheist relative.

Condemning that poster would be a multipage thread.

That’s why this isn’t a serious forum. Don’t look for advice, education, or sanity here.

People are literally ok with a poster admitting they want drugs to unalive their aunt vs her to live as a Christian.

They even admit they know her life span would be shorter if she continued in her drug addiction- but admitted it was ok, they still didn’t want her off drugs.

That’s some special kind of pathological thinking, right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I agree with others that certain personalities just go to extremes in a search for their identity and as a cure for their inner sense of dread. They look for external sources of authority who can reassure them and provide the psychological framework they seem to lack. And while becoming Christian seems like a good thing to westerners steeped in a biblical interpretation of good vs evil, I think it's correct to see it as swinging from one extreme to the other. It's just a different cult. I hope she finds inner peace eventually.

Are you the poster who would rather have their aunt die than become a Christian?

Why would you rather have your aunt die in the streets, in a drug house, etc, alone and addicted to drugs (what what was your aunt addicted to? Heroin? Meth? Pills?)

Let’s be real: anyone who wishes a family member would die from an overdose rather than doing a 12 step program, becoming Christian, and saving their life is a selfish bigot who has either sociopathic or pathological (or both) tendencies.

anyone who would admit freely to others that yeah, piss off and die Aunt Sally, I’ll gladly see you face down in an alley with a needle in your arm before you get clean and live a happy, productive, drug free life is really awful and evil.

Yeah, I wouldn't phrase it as shrilly, but basically this. PP who wants Aunt Sally to die rather than become a Christian is one sick puppy.

I'm the PP you guys are all losing your minds about. I never said I wanted her to die or preferred her to remain addicted to drugs. I said that her being a born-again Christian is more annoying to me but healthier for her. Both true statements. No part of that says I'm sneaking heroin into her bathroom because my being annoyed is more important than her health. She has an addictive personality and if she'd become addicted to talking about crystals and energies and trying to talk everyone into Reiki or Tarot readings it would also be annoying, but healthier than drugs. You, like most evangelicals, just really, really want to be a victim, so you're chasing that high right past reading comprehension.

[Anonymous]

You are more annoyed by a Christian than a drug addict?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are more annoyed by a Christian than a drug addict?

As a drug addict, she was simply absent from things and a PITA to her siblings. As a "born-again" Christian, she was everywhere, all the time, pushing pamphlets into hands and giving impassioned pleas that we all attend her church, be "washed in the blood of the Lamb" and give our lives to Jesus Christ. For the record: everyone she was talking to already attended a church. Just not her version.

So yeah, it's more annoying to deal with that than never seeing her and just hearing stories about her hitting people up for money. But it's still healthier for her, and her addictive personality needs an outlet somehow.

If she'd become a witch and spent every family gathering demanding we perform solstice rites that would be deeply annoying too, and still healthier than drugs. Would you lot be as bothered by me noting how irritating that was, though? Or would you instead be outraged that I thought witchcraft was the healthier option and insist it was worse for her immortal soul?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if someone posted that they’d rather have their family member die than become an atheist, what the reaction would be here?

I can imagine people would be outraged that a Christian would be so cold/crazy/cruel to prefer a dead relative to an alive and healthy atheist relative.

Condemning that poster would be a multipage thread.

That’s why this isn’t a serious forum. Don’t look for advice, education, or sanity here.

People are literally ok with a poster admitting they want drugs to unalive their aunt vs her to live as a Christian.

They even admit they know her life span would be shorter if she continued in her drug addiction- but admitted it was ok, they still didn’t want her off drugs.

That’s some special kind of pathological thinking, right there.

You know thats literally the doctrine of many many many religions...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if someone posted that they’d rather have their family member die than become an atheist, what the reaction would be here?

I can imagine people would be outraged that a Christian would be so cold/crazy/cruel to prefer a dead relative to an alive and healthy atheist relative.

Condemning that poster would be a multipage thread.

That’s why this isn’t a serious forum. Don’t look for advice, education, or sanity here.

People are literally ok with a poster admitting they want drugs to unalive their aunt vs her to live as a Christian.

They even admit they know her life span would be shorter if she continued in her drug addiction- but admitted it was ok, they still didn’t want her off drugs.

That’s some special kind of pathological thinking, right there.

You know thats literally the doctrine of many many many religions...

explain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kind of like when people quit alcohol, but take up cigarettes. Same thing, but with a replacement.

This. She seems unstable, but good luck to her in whatever she chooses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are more annoyed by a Christian than a drug addict?

As a drug addict, she was simply absent from things and a PITA to her siblings. As a "born-again" Christian, she was everywhere, all the time, pushing pamphlets into hands and giving impassioned pleas that we all attend her church, be "washed in the blood of the Lamb" and give our lives to Jesus Christ. For the record: everyone she was talking to already attended a church. Just not her version.

So yeah, it's more annoying to deal with that than never seeing her and just hearing stories about her hitting people up for money. But it's still healthier for her, and her addictive personality needs an outlet somehow.

If she'd become a witch and spent every family gathering demanding we perform solstice rites that would be deeply annoying too, and still healthier than drugs. Would you lot be as bothered by me noting how irritating that was, though? Or would you instead be outraged that I thought witchcraft was the healthier option and insist it was worse for her immortal soul?

So you see your aunt’s life in the context of how she should act to not annoy you?

Even if she were a drug addict killing herself, you didn’t have to deal with her, and out of sight, out of mind, and you are more than fine with that.

Because she’s an active Christian, and you have to see her and interact with her, you find her annoying. So you lament she will live longer.

She’s not a witch, and it’s a waste of time dealing in hypothetical scenarios.

The correct answer here, is: I love my aunt. I do not want her to die no matter what. Even if she’s annoying, we are grateful as a family she’s not a drug user anymore, As a family and as individuals, we will support her sobriety with love and understanding.

Did you answer how you know your aunt has an addictive personality? How do you know she didn’t get hooked on pain pills because of an injury? How do you know she didn’t start using drugs to self medicate after an emotional trauma she couldn’t deal with?

There are lots of reasons people start using drugs. Emotional, physical, sexual abuse, etc.

From your words you have written about your aunt, she must know she annoys you and you don’t like spending time with her. If you were a thinking, caring adult, you’d put your feelings of annoyance aside and support her sobriety. It’s extremely difficult to stop being a drug addict. She deserves support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kind of like when people quit alcohol, but take up cigarettes. Same thing, but with a replacement.

This. She seems unstable, but good luck to her in whatever she chooses.

Nobody stops drinking to smoke. Drinkers smoke. if they stop drinking, they probably won’t stop smoking, because quitting two things at once is very hard.

[Anonymous]

It won't help him enter heaven but God does appreciate and consider this as an act of repentance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is this a religious thread and not an entertainment one? Is the church trying to hail this as some sort of victory against witchcraft or something? Why do we care that someone changed their religion at all?

Sometimes we post in FCPS forum, and sometimes we post in general Education forum.