Are principals required to respond to emails?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all you angry people - I'm pretty sure the time at the bus stop is technically part of the school day for disciplinary purposes. Kids can report bullying behavior at the bus stop and the school is compelled to act.

I do agree that OP is bonkers though

Well you're right about the OP but totally wrong about the other stuff. Not on School grounds or at a school organized event - still effectively under the "jurisdiction" of their parents, so no.

No, you’re totally wrong PP. The school has absolute authority to discipline behaviors at a bus stop. It’s part of the school day. Waiting to take the bus that will take you to school is a “school organized event.” If we go with your line of thinking, then your kid could get beat up everyday at the bus stop and the school wouldn’t be able to do anything because it wasn’t on school grounds.
Yeah, no.

Actually you are completely wrong. I am a teacher and we had this issue come up when there was a bully who only interacted with another student at the bus stop - not on the bus or at the school. They were in different grades. We checked with compliance and we were told that bus stop behavior is absolutely part of the school day for discipline purposes. At first I was surprised but then I realized that we have student patrols at stops and they can issue warnings at the bus stop and teachers get involved when those warnings are issued and kids have been kicked off the bus for poor behavior at the bus stop so this is actually a parallel issue.
Those of you saying this is not something the school would get involved in are wrong but I too was ignorant like you in the past so I don't blame you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To all you angry people - I'm pretty sure the time at the bus stop is technically part of the school day for disciplinary purposes. Kids can report bullying behavior at the bus stop and the school is compelled to act.

I do agree that OP is bonkers though

Well you're right about the OP but totally wrong about the other stuff. Not on School grounds or at a school organized event - still effectively under the "jurisdiction" of their parents, so no.

No, you’re totally wrong PP. The school has absolute authority to discipline behaviors at a bus stop. It’s part of the school day. Waiting to take the bus that will take you to school is a “school organized event.” If we go with your line of thinking, then your kid could get beat up everyday at the bus stop and the school wouldn’t be able to do anything because it wasn’t on school grounds.
Yeah, no.

Actually you are completely wrong. I am a teacher and we had this issue come up when there was a bully who only interacted with another student at the bus stop - not on the bus or at the school. They were in different grades. We checked with compliance and we were told that bus stop behavior is absolutely part of the school day for discipline purposes. At first I was surprised but then I realized that we have student patrols at stops and they can issue warnings at the bus stop and teachers get involved when those warnings are issued and kids have been kicked off the bus for poor behavior at the bus stop so this is actually a parallel issue.
Those of you saying this is not something the school would get involved in are wrong but I too was ignorant like you in the past so I don't blame you.

Even if we treat the bus stop as an extension of the school day, we are left with the question of why on earth the principal of an entire school would get involved in an incident that appears to amount to "loudly saying a curse word outdoors."

This is such a nothingburger.

[Anonymous]

I am a teacher and I ride public transportation to and from school, so I encounter lots of students. I emailed the principal about the behavior of students on public transportation because I thought they were behaving in a way that was unsafe. I framed the email positively (“I know it takes a village!”) and the principal responded thanking me and saying that they addressed this with students generally and now have school staff at the bus stop after school. Not exactly the same situation as OP but I do think it’s helpful to let school staff know about student behavior.

[Anonymous]

There is no consequence even they said the F word or flapped someone at school. Last year DS had horrible experience in his homeroom where students cursed in front of the teacher almost constantly everyday, I wrote to counselor and got nothing back. Luckily this year they got rid of hr and just gathered at auditorium for morning announcements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Similar thing happened to me. I live on a hill and the local high school's cross country and track teams are often here, doing sprints on the hill. They congregate in front of my house. Lots of noise, lots of swearing. I've ignored it, but one day I was leaving my house and and they were in front of my driveway completely ignoring the fact that I'd just driven down it and needed to get out. I rolled my window and asked for them to move and they didn't -- I assumed they couldn't hear me. Then I honked my horn. They moved but one yelled "F--- you, Karen!!!" as I drove off. I emailed their principal. No response.

Good you probably deserved it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher and I ride public transportation to and from school, so I encounter lots of students. I emailed the principal about the behavior of students on public transportation because I thought they were behaving in a way that was unsafe. I framed the email positively (“I know it takes a village!”) and the principal responded thanking me and saying that they addressed this with students generally and now have school staff at the bus stop after school. Not exactly the same situation as OP but I do think it’s helpful to let school staff know about student behavior.

This happened at our school too. Principal sent an all-school email about bad behavior on public buses.
I think OP's concerns are not worth a complaint but if we're just debating whether a principal should or can get involved in such matters the answer is a clear yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Similar thing happened to me. I live on a hill and the local high school's cross country and track teams are often here, doing sprints on the hill. They congregate in front of my house. Lots of noise, lots of swearing. I've ignored it, but one day I was leaving my house and and they were in front of my driveway completely ignoring the fact that I'd just driven down it and needed to get out. I rolled my window and asked for them to move and they didn't -- I assumed they couldn't hear me. Then I honked my horn. They moved but one yelled "F--- you, Karen!!!" as I drove off. I emailed their principal. No response.

Good you probably deserved it

This is really rude. The kids and the PP. I would have expected the principal to respond just to apologize and say they would talk to the track coach.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are obliged to respond to emails from the parents of students, they are not obliged to respond to emails from disgruntled strangers.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are obliged to respond to emails from the parents of students, they are not obliged to respond to emails from disgruntled strangers.

Bingo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Similar thing happened to me. I live on a hill and the local high school's cross country and track teams are often here, doing sprints on the hill. They congregate in front of my house. Lots of noise, lots of swearing. I've ignored it, but one day I was leaving my house and and they were in front of my driveway completely ignoring the fact that I'd just driven down it and needed to get out. I rolled my window and asked for them to move and they didn't -- I assumed they couldn't hear me. Then I honked my horn. They moved but one yelled "F--- you, Karen!!!" as I drove off. I emailed their principal. No response.

Good you probably deserved it

This is really rude. The kids and the PP. I would have expected the principal to respond just to apologize and say they would talk to the track coach.

Not their responsibility off campus, sorry your sensitive, learn to be the adult and walk away.

[Anonymous]

OP, first, thank you for talking to those kids. That is what is wrong with our society today, everyone just ignores the bad behavior. I would have done the same. I would have emailed the school and given them as much detail as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, first, thank you for talking to those kids. That is what is wrong with our society today, everyone just ignores the bad behavior. I would have done the same. I would have emailed the school and given them as much detail as possible.

Hard disagree. This random adult actually left her house to go confront a group of teenagers. They weren't bullying anyone or damaging property. They said a swear word. It's not behavior. I would accept from my teen, but it's also nowhere near the bar for requiring strangers to get involved.

OP tried to use her status as an adult and a homeowner to intimidate a group of children. It didn't work, and it made her sad, but they're still nothing. I would expect to the principal to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: My kids don't attend that school, but there was an incident at the bus stop where the middle school boys yelled the F word while waiting for the bus. I went outside and talked to tell and told them to watch their language in public. When I left I noticed a kid flapped me off and they while all laughing at me, I emailed the principal and still no respond.

Yes, it is their main job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Similar thing happened to me. I live on a hill and the local high school's cross country and track teams are often here, doing sprints on the hill. They congregate in front of my house. Lots of noise, lots of swearing. I've ignored it, but one day I was leaving my house and and they were in front of my driveway completely ignoring the fact that I'd just driven down it and needed to get out. I rolled my window and asked for them to move and they didn't -- I assumed they couldn't hear me. Then I honked my horn. They moved but one yelled "F--- you, Karen!!!" as I drove off. I emailed their principal. No response.

This is reasonable to email the principal about. He can forward the complaint to the xc coach

Don't do this. Just contact the coach directly and politely explain the problem. The coach is the one who will care and can instruct their athletes differently. The principal has an email inbox full of too much low level stuff - this won't get attention there.

I don’t have a kid at the school. How the heck am I supposed to figure out who the coach is and what their email info is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Similar thing happened to me. I live on a hill and the local high school's cross country and track teams are often here, doing sprints on the hill. They congregate in front of my house. Lots of noise, lots of swearing. I've ignored it, but one day I was leaving my house and and they were in front of my driveway completely ignoring the fact that I'd just driven down it and needed to get out. I rolled my window and asked for them to move and they didn't -- I assumed they couldn't hear me. Then I honked my horn. They moved but one yelled "F--- you, Karen!!!" as I drove off. I emailed their principal. No response.

This is reasonable to email the principal about. He can forward the complaint to the xc coach

Don't do this. Just contact the coach directly and politely explain the problem. The coach is the one who will care and can instruct their athletes differently. The principal has an email inbox full of too much low level stuff - this won't get attention there.

I don’t have a kid at the school. How the heck am I supposed to figure out who the coach is and what their email info is?

The school’s website.