Earlier to bed now, or just rip off the bandaid?

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Anonymous wrote:We keep our routine year round. Makes it easier. Kid is in MS. Might get harder in HS but she is already starting to understand how important her sleep is so hopefully will be relatively easy.

Our MS bus comes at 6:30. You make your kid wake up at 6 AM year round?

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Anonymous wrote:It takes 6 weeks to adjust to a new routine, ie, have your body wake naturally at the expected time each day. So, it doesn't really matter at this point. Use this opportunity for leverage: lay out the options to your teens, tell them they can choose, and then remind them how wonderful you are the next time they complain about you.

In fcps, the middle school starts so early that most kids never naturally wake up

Amen to that! There are no circumstances (barring illness) where my teen is going to bed at 9:00 PM and waking up at 5:30 AM, by herself. Hell, there are no circumstances where I can do that, either.

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Anonymous wrote:It takes 6 weeks to adjust to a new routine, ie, have your body wake naturally at the expected time each day. So, it doesn't really matter at this point. Use this opportunity for leverage: lay out the options to your teens, tell them they can choose, and then remind them how wonderful you are the next time they complain about you.

In fcps, the middle school starts so early that most kids never naturally wake up

fortunately some states are passing laws against this requiring that schools start no earlier than 8:30, maybe one day all states will.

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Anonymous wrote:Sleep physicians will tell you that it’s very detrimental to health just to add an extra hour or two of sleep for a lie in on the weekend, after later than usual nights - the issue being that the sleep schedule should be the same continuously for optimal health.

Letting kids stay up all hours and sleep all day in summer is not really a good thing any way you slice it. Consider keeping them on a healthy sleep schedule during vacations and summer breaks going forward, it might teach them not to go off the rails once they leave your home as semi adults.

Am sure you have well adjusted kids

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Anonymous wrote:Sleep physicians will tell you that it’s very detrimental to health just to add an extra hour or two of sleep for a lie in on the weekend, after later than usual nights - the issue being that the sleep schedule should be the same continuously for optimal health.

Letting kids stay up all hours and sleep all day in summer is not really a good thing any way you slice it. Consider keeping them on a healthy sleep schedule during vacations and summer breaks going forward, it might teach them not to go off the rails once they leave your home as semi adults.

Am sure you have well adjusted kids

+1 Seriously OP - do you actually have kids? I'm happy if my 6th and 8th graders will sleep at 11p! LOL Good god, my kids would NEVER unless they were sick be asleep by 930p on their own or rise at 530a as PP had said. DH and I aren't like that either. I will never understand how people do that. What do you do at 530a on Sundays? What do you do on Saturday nights??

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Anonymous wrote:It takes 6 weeks to adjust to a new routine, ie, have your body wake naturally at the expected time each day. So, it doesn't really matter at this point. Use this opportunity for leverage: lay out the options to your teens, tell them they can choose, and then remind them how wonderful you are the next time they complain about you.

Is that true?

Bc when we travel, it usually only takes us a day or 2 to adjust to the new schedule.

We're going to have the kids start getting up early, if only to help them get to bed earlier on the night before school

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It depends on your child’s disposition. If he/she can easily “switch gears” overnight and readjust to school year time, then I see no problem in letting summer be enjoyed to the very end. If not, then a period of transition is probably a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Bandaid. We started two weeks ago (crazy, I know). It was not rough. Kids - 6th and 9th.

If you started 2 weeks ago this is not a bandaid approach, unless I am mistaken.

School started two weeks ago where we live. We did not work on adjustment beforehand. We used the bandaid approach. It worked fine.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 6 weeks to adjust to a new routine, ie, have your body wake naturally at the expected time each day. So, it doesn't really matter at this point. Use this opportunity for leverage: lay out the options to your teens, tell them they can choose, and then remind them how wonderful you are the next time they complain about you.

In fcps, the middle school starts so early that most kids never naturally wake up

fortunately some states are passing laws against this requiring that schools start no earlier than 8:30, maybe one day all states will.

This won't be possible in places like FCPS, LCPS, MCPS. The bussing requirement and shortage of drivers makes it a total non-starter.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 6 weeks to adjust to a new routine, ie, have your body wake naturally at the expected time each day. So, it doesn't really matter at this point. Use this opportunity for leverage: lay out the options to your teens, tell them they can choose, and then remind them how wonderful you are the next time they complain about you.

In fcps, the middle school starts so early that most kids never naturally wake up

fortunately some states are passing laws against this requiring that schools start no earlier than 8:30, maybe one day all states will.

This won't be possible in places like FCPS, LCPS, MCPS. The bussing requirement and shortage of drivers makes it a total non-starter.

from what I've read if a similar law were to pass in Virginia they would have to make it work or they would lose state funding.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It takes 6 weeks to adjust to a new routine, ie, have your body wake naturally at the expected time each day. So, it doesn't really matter at this point. Use this opportunity for leverage: lay out the options to your teens, tell them they can choose, and then remind them how wonderful you are the next time they complain about you.

In fcps, the middle school starts so early that most kids never naturally wake up

fortunately some states are passing laws against this requiring that schools start no earlier than 8:30, maybe one day all states will.

This won't be possible in places like FCPS, LCPS, MCPS. The bussing requirement and shortage of drivers makes it a total non-starter.

from what I've read if a similar law were to pass in Virginia they would have to make it work or they would lose state funding.

The school boards of FCPS, LCPS, and MCPS all are constantly pushing back against the state on evrry issue (transgender, snow day allotment, starting before Labor Day, you name it) and are not threatened by "losing state funding".
Take a moment to scroll through said forums. You'll see how crazy it gets.

Having said that, FCPS already pushed back HS start times a few years ago. It exacerbated the school bus driver shortage, bus routes, and cost a TON of money, etc...on top of the county being absolutely massive with a super high density which made for another unique challenge.

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Anonymous wrote:We keep our routine year round. Makes it easier. Kid is in MS. Might get harder in HS but she is already starting to understand how important her sleep is so hopefully will be relatively easy.

Our MS bus comes at 6:30. You make your kid wake up at 6 AM year round?

I would not ever live somewhere like this. You make your kid get up at 6 AM 9 months out of the year?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We keep our routine year round. Makes it easier. Kid is in MS. Might get harder in HS but she is already starting to understand how important her sleep is so hopefully will be relatively easy.

Our MS bus comes at 6:30. You make your kid wake up at 6 AM year round?

I would not ever live somewhere like this. You make your kid get up at 6 AM 9 months out of the year?

DP. 5:30 for us. I ended up driving DD 4th quarter of last year so she could get a little extra sleep.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sleep physicians will tell you that it’s very detrimental to health just to add an extra hour or two of sleep for a lie in on the weekend, after later than usual nights - the issue being that the sleep schedule should be the same continuously for optimal health.

Letting kids stay up all hours and sleep all day in summer is not really a good thing any way you slice it. Consider keeping them on a healthy sleep schedule during vacations and summer breaks going forward, it might teach them not to go off the rails once they leave your home as semi adults.

Am sure you have well adjusted kids

+1 Seriously OP - do you actually have kids? I'm happy if my 6th and 8th graders will sleep at 11p! LOL Good god, my kids would NEVER unless they were sick be asleep by 930p on their own or rise at 530a as PP had said. DH and I aren't like that either. I will never understand how people do that. What do you do at 530a on Sundays? What do you do on Saturday nights??

There have been study after study that shows teens and young adults aren't wired to go to bed early. During these years kids have a need for sleep as they are growing and brain development is occuring. This one of the reasons many school districts would like to push back high school start times. This poster is talking about a 9 to 11 year olds not teens.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We keep our routine year round. Makes it easier. Kid is in MS. Might get harder in HS but she is already starting to understand how important her sleep is so hopefully will be relatively easy.

Our MS bus comes at 6:30. You make your kid wake up at 6 AM year round?

I would not ever live somewhere like this. You make your kid get up at 6 AM 9 months out of the year?

DP. 5:30 for us. I ended up driving DD 4th quarter of last year so she could get a little extra sleep.

That's insane, If our school was like this i would home school or move.