AP exams free next year?

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Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

Why pay for buses? Why pay for textbooks? Why pay the teachers?

They don't. There are no text books.

Fact check: false.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

Why pay for buses? Why pay for textbooks? Why pay the teachers?

They don't. There are no text books.

Some classes have textbooks, some don't.

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Anonymous wrote:https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/CSJR4E67517D/$file/Final%20Adopt%20of%20FY%202024%20Op%20Bdgt%20230606.pdf

• Advanced Placement and International Baccalaureate exams funding for increased student
participation—$3,397,401

so what did they cut? Or did they not cut anything, and just asked MoCo for more money?

If you read the linked memo, the budget reductions are listed on pages 7 and 8.

Thanks.. no time to read through the whole doc, but I read pg 8.

Part of what they cut:

- Expenditure trends: $966,887. Due to some historical under spending in certain accounts,
this funding can be reduced from staff training, student transportation, and contractual services
accounts.


Doesn't tell us what the "certain accounts" is.


-School-age Day Students in Nonpublic Schools: $500,000. Because of recent trends, MCPS
believes it can reduce its funding for the cost we pay for school-age day students attending
nonpublic schools.

Why were taxpayers paying for non public school students, and what exactly was MCPS paying for?

The pre-k private I can understand. But I don't get what the ^ funding was for.

In some cases, students with special needs are best served by nonpublic school programs.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/special-education/programs-services/placement-and-assessment/

ah. thanks for that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

Why pay for buses? Why pay for textbooks? Why pay the teachers?

They don't. There are no text books.

Some classes have textbooks, some don't.

Lots of textbooks, but not many to take home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

Why pay for buses? Why pay for textbooks? Why pay the teachers?

They don't. There are no text books.

Some classes have textbooks, some don't.

Lots of textbooks, but not many to take home.

It depends on the class and the teacher. Each year since 6th grade, my 10th grader has had at least 1 textbook at home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

Why pay for buses? Why pay for textbooks? Why pay the teachers?

They don't. There are no text books.

Some classes have textbooks, some don't.

Lots of textbooks, but not many to take home.

It depends on the class and the teacher. Each year since 6th grade, my 10th grader has had at least 1 textbook at home.

But rarely 6 or 7 classes' worth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

I’m not in a bubble but one of the middle class. If I can afford to pay the fees for AP tests, so can you. They need to use the money wisely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

Working class families qualify for FARMS. For a household with 4 people (for example, 1 adult and 3 children), the maximum eligibility limit is $55,500. And families who qualify for FARMS are getting squeezed by the exact same things as non-wealthy families. People who think families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life are welcome to reduce their income and try it out for themselves.

Yes, and a working class household of 4 earning $56,000 a year qualifies for nothing. You think they will prioritize hundreds of dollars for AP exams on that income? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Also, who said families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life? That’s not what I said. My point was that there are plenty of families who earn too much to qualify for aid, but earn way too little to be able to afford optional things in this category. This is a lot of people in this county. They far outnumber the wealthy ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

I’m not in a bubble but one of the middle class. If I can afford to pay the fees for AP tests, so can you. They need to use the money wisely.

DCUM's gonna DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

I’m not in a bubble but one of the middle class. If I can afford to pay the fees for AP tests, so can you. They need to use the money wisely.

DCUM's gonna DCUM.

Yep. I make in the mid 70s as a teacher and I’m a single parent. That’s poor by DCUM standards yet I have no problem paying these fees. I prioritize it. But there is no reason to waste the county’s money on paying these fees for everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

Working class families qualify for FARMS. For a household with 4 people (for example, 1 adult and 3 children), the maximum eligibility limit is $55,500. And families who qualify for FARMS are getting squeezed by the exact same things as non-wealthy families. People who think families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life are welcome to reduce their income and try it out for themselves.

Yes, and a working class household of 4 earning $56,000 a year qualifies for nothing. You think they will prioritize hundreds of dollars for AP exams on that income? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Also, who said families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life? That’s not what I said. My point was that there are plenty of families who earn too much to qualify for aid, but earn way too little to be able to afford optional things in this category. This is a lot of people in this county. They far outnumber the wealthy ones.

Why would a poor family prefer a $1000+ college class over a $100 exam fee?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

Working class families qualify for FARMS. For a household with 4 people (for example, 1 adult and 3 children), the maximum eligibility limit is $55,500. And families who qualify for FARMS are getting squeezed by the exact same things as non-wealthy families. People who think families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life are welcome to reduce their income and try it out for themselves.

Yes, and a working class household of 4 earning $56,000 a year qualifies for nothing. You think they will prioritize hundreds of dollars for AP exams on that income? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Also, who said families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life? That’s not what I said. My point was that there are plenty of families who earn too much to qualify for aid, but earn way too little to be able to afford optional things in this category. This is a lot of people in this county. They far outnumber the wealthy ones.

Why would a poor family prefer a $1000+ college class over a $100 exam fee?

dp.. a poor family will get a lot of financial aid for college. A poor family probably needs the $100 now. That's a lot for a poor family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

Why pay for buses? Why pay for textbooks? Why pay the teachers?

They don't. There are no text books.

Some classes have textbooks, some don't.

Lots of textbooks, but not many to take home.

It depends on the class and the teacher. Each year since 6th grade, my 10th grader has had at least 1 textbook at home.

Interesting. My rising 9th grader still has to bring even one textbook home, and said child has been in magnet programs since 4th grade..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

Working class families qualify for FARMS. For a household with 4 people (for example, 1 adult and 3 children), the maximum eligibility limit is $55,500. And families who qualify for FARMS are getting squeezed by the exact same things as non-wealthy families. People who think families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life are welcome to reduce their income and try it out for themselves.

Yes, and a working class household of 4 earning $56,000 a year qualifies for nothing. You think they will prioritize hundreds of dollars for AP exams on that income? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Also, who said families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life? That’s not what I said. My point was that there are plenty of families who earn too much to qualify for aid, but earn way too little to be able to afford optional things in this category. This is a lot of people in this county. They far outnumber the wealthy ones.

Why would a poor family prefer a $1000+ college class over a $100 exam fee?

Not every college accepts AP credits, from what I hear. I believe, not a whole lot of them do - but correct me, if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's ridiculous. Montgomery County is one of the wealthiest areas of the country. Why pay for AP exams for students whose parents can easily afford them?

I think you’d be surprised, if you stepped out of your bubble, that there are lots and lots of middle class families who I guess can make tough choices and find the money, but when your child takes multiple exams and maybe you have multiple children, it is not some small amount. The threshold to qualify for FARMS is very low poverty. There are lots of people above the threshold who aren’t wealthy and this eliminates a barrier for those students. I am tired of everyone assuming everyone is so wealthy. Everything has gone up in price and is so expensive. FARMS families get various supports (and also often get paid cash and may earn more than is reported) and middle and working class families just keep getting squeezed.

Working class families qualify for FARMS. For a household with 4 people (for example, 1 adult and 3 children), the maximum eligibility limit is $55,500. And families who qualify for FARMS are getting squeezed by the exact same things as non-wealthy families. People who think families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life are welcome to reduce their income and try it out for themselves.

Yes, and a working class household of 4 earning $56,000 a year qualifies for nothing. You think they will prioritize hundreds of dollars for AP exams on that income? The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Also, who said families who qualify for FARMS are living a plush life? That’s not what I said. My point was that there are plenty of families who earn too much to qualify for aid, but earn way too little to be able to afford optional things in this category. This is a lot of people in this county. They far outnumber the wealthy ones.

Why would a poor family prefer a $1000+ college class over a $100 exam fee?

Not every college accepts AP credits, from what I hear. I believe, not a whole lot of them do - but correct me, if I'm wrong.

Some will accept a 5 only; a handful don't accept STEM APs.

But, for the most part, the majority still take AP exams in some way.

MD, for example, just passed a law that requires MD state univ to accept a 3 on the exam, however, it does not mean you get out of the course. You just get the credit for that category. It basically gets you out of an elective, but not the course itself, especially in the STEM courses.