6th grade math placement letters posted

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

He can still take algebra as an 8th grader with plenty of time for calculus. But he’s a 5th grader. Stop the pressure. He may change his dreams 1000000 times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

Has he expressed a strong preference? I know my kid was quite anxious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

Has he expressed a strong preference? I know my kid was quite anxious.

He 100% wants to be in accelerated classes. That is pretty much the main thing he is looking forward to in MS but he is also an anxious kid when it comes to work (perfectionist). So it's really probably fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

He can still take algebra as an 8th grader with plenty of time for calculus. But he’s a 5th grader. Stop the pressure. He may change his dreams 1000000 times.

Right, I did see that. Don't worry. I don't say anything to him. It is all in my own head and on DCUM lol.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

Has he expressed a strong preference? I know my kid was quite anxious.

He 100% wants to be in accelerated classes. That is pretty much the main thing he is looking forward to in MS but he is also an anxious kid when it comes to work (perfectionist). So it's really probably fine.

I totally understand having a perfectionist kid. He might be a kid who gets moved a few weeks into the year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do hear they pay sometimes listen to parent requests but can't decide if I want to do it. My kid seemed to score just under his friends who got into pre Algebra. And he is a highly motivated kid (like walks in the door and immediately starts homework, is always engaged and participating in class, and buys books about math for fun) but then I also feel that the scores and there for a reason. But it also doesn't hurt to ask lol.

How close were the scores? We were just under on one and way over on another

Just under on both.

I mean I don't honestly know why I care. The rational part of my brain is telling me that middle school 6th grade math placement will not ruin him forever and won't stop him from his dream job of a scientist. The irrational part of my brain sure is loud though.

Has he expressed a strong preference? I know my kid was quite anxious.

He 100% wants to be in accelerated classes. That is pretty much the main thing he is looking forward to in MS but he is also an anxious kid when it comes to work (perfectionist). So it's really probably fine.

I totally understand having a perfectionist kid. He might be a kid who gets moved a few weeks into the year

Yeah, we shall see. I assume the schools knows what they are doing (maybe lol)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had though at some point folks said that the score needed to get into Algebra 1 was 1046. And that pre algebra was in the 900s. MAYBE 940 but I may have made that up.

To get into pre Algebra 7 the you need a 475 on the SOL and a 785 on MI. So it seems weird to me that you need a lower score to get into that when it comes 7/8 grade math.

Where did you get the numbers for Algebra 7, they seem low

DP. Its detailed on the letter to rising 7th grade parents. FWIW there is definitely teacher input. My DD scored very low on the MI which was weird b/c she's an A student. The teacher worked with her to see what was wrong and looks like it had to do with something that one of new 5th grade teachers at the elementary school didn't teach last year (she said she had multiple kids with the same issue and same 5th grade teacher). But then DD score very high on the Math SOL. She was put in Pre-Alg 7.

My kid is the opposite. High MI, just missed the cut off for SOL, and recommended for math 7. Kid goofs off in class so that’s probably why. Debating whether we should push it or not…

I wouldn’t put a kid who goofs off in an accelerated class like this. It’s not fair to them or the other kids.

+1 and sounds like mom is already making excuses for him. (He rushed the SOL…)

Excuses? No, I’m explaining why I think the teacher input factored in - because the kid goofs off and doesn’t take it seriously. Even though kid clearly knows the content.

And pre-alg for 7th really is not all that accelerated. I have older kids who’ve taken more accelerated paths. Part of why kid goofed off is that math 6 is boring AF.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What Percent of 6th graders are in Pre-Algebra? Is it all of the kids who are part of the gifted group in 5th?

My “gifted” seventh grader only knows two kids that were in pre-algebra in sixth grade. It’s three years in one. Not to be taken lightly.

It’s rushed for sure. It’s fine if the kids have a good teacher, but it can be really bad if the teacher sucks.

It’s a shame they don’t offer an intermediate option. Math 6 is boring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had though at some point folks said that the score needed to get into Algebra 1 was 1046. And that pre algebra was in the 900s. MAYBE 940 but I may have made that up.

To get into pre Algebra 7 the you need a 475 on the SOL and a 785 on MI. So it seems weird to me that you need a lower score to get into that when it comes 7/8 grade math.

Where did you get the numbers for Algebra 7, they seem low

DP. Its detailed on the letter to rising 7th grade parents. FWIW there is definitely teacher input. My DD scored very low on the MI which was weird b/c she's an A student. The teacher worked with her to see what was wrong and looks like it had to do with something that one of new 5th grade teachers at the elementary school didn't teach last year (she said she had multiple kids with the same issue and same 5th grade teacher). But then DD score very high on the Math SOL. She was put in Pre-Alg 7.

My kid is the opposite. High MI, just missed the cut off for SOL, and recommended for math 7. Kid goofs off in class so that’s probably why. Debating whether we should push it or not…

I wouldn’t put a kid who goofs off in an accelerated class like this. It’s not fair to them or the other kids.

+1 and sounds like mom is already making excuses for him. (He rushed the SOL…)

Excuses? No, I’m explaining why I think the teacher input factored in - because the kid goofs off and doesn’t take it seriously. Even though kid clearly knows the content.

And pre-alg for 7th really is not all that accelerated. I have older kids who’ve taken more accelerated paths. Part of why kid goofed off is that math 6 is boring AF.

Can’t speak to “Math 6 is boring AF”, since, you know, I’m an adult and not actually in the room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From letter:
"Minimum score indicating that student might be ready for a 3 year compacted curriculum in grade 6 & HS credit court in grade 7"

VA SOL Grade 5: 550+
MI Quantile Score: 1046

That’s crazy. 1030 used to be the cutoff for algebra. They used to put most advanced kids in the advanced math class in 6th. They are screwing over a lot of capable kids with artificially high score cutoffs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had though at some point folks said that the score needed to get into Algebra 1 was 1046. And that pre algebra was in the 900s. MAYBE 940 but I may have made that up.

To get into pre Algebra 7 the you need a 475 on the SOL and a 785 on MI. So it seems weird to me that you need a lower score to get into that when it comes 7/8 grade math.

Where did you get the numbers for Algebra 7, they seem low

DP. Its detailed on the letter to rising 7th grade parents. FWIW there is definitely teacher input. My DD scored very low on the MI which was weird b/c she's an A student. The teacher worked with her to see what was wrong and looks like it had to do with something that one of new 5th grade teachers at the elementary school didn't teach last year (she said she had multiple kids with the same issue and same 5th grade teacher). But then DD score very high on the Math SOL. She was put in Pre-Alg 7.

My kid is the opposite. High MI, just missed the cut off for SOL, and recommended for math 7. Kid goofs off in class so that’s probably why. Debating whether we should push it or not…

I wouldn’t put a kid who goofs off in an accelerated class like this. It’s not fair to them or the other kids.

+1 and sounds like mom is already making excuses for him. (He rushed the SOL…)

Excuses? No, I’m explaining why I think the teacher input factored in - because the kid goofs off and doesn’t take it seriously. Even though kid clearly knows the content.

And pre-alg for 7th really is not all that accelerated. I have older kids who’ve taken more accelerated paths. Part of why kid goofed off is that math 6 is boring AF.

Can’t speak to “Math 6 is boring AF”, since, you know, I’m an adult and not actually in the room.

I know many kids who’ve done math 6 & kids who did pre-alg for 6th (math 6/7/8). Consensus is that math 6 is boring AF. Have you seen the syllabus? Very, very little new material after 5th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From letter:
"Minimum score indicating that student might be ready for a 3 year compacted curriculum in grade 6 & HS credit court in grade 7"

VA SOL Grade 5: 550+
MI Quantile Score: 1046

That’s crazy. 1030 used to be the cutoff for algebra. They used to put most advanced kids in the advanced math class in 6th. They are screwing over a lot of capable kids with artificially high score cutoffs.

It is not really 1046 though. The kids I know that got in to pre algebra got 973 and 897 on the MI. One scored under 550 on the SOL and one scored above. So I don't know why they give that score. Plus it seems like you only need to score really high one on metric.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From letter:
"Minimum score indicating that student might be ready for a 3 year compacted curriculum in grade 6 & HS credit court in grade 7"

VA SOL Grade 5: 550+
MI Quantile Score: 1046

That’s crazy. 1030 used to be the cutoff for algebra. They used to put most advanced kids in the advanced math class in 6th. They are screwing over a lot of capable kids with artificially high score cutoffs.

It is not really 1046 though. The kids I know that got in to pre algebra got 973 and 897 on the MI. One scored under 550 on the SOL and one scored above. So I don't know why they give that score. Plus it seems like you only need to score really high one on metric.

Be honest, are their parents demanding? Like were they placed there because the parents would cause a fuss if they weren’t?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From letter:
"Minimum score indicating that student might be ready for a 3 year compacted curriculum in grade 6 & HS credit court in grade 7"

VA SOL Grade 5: 550+
MI Quantile Score: 1046

That’s crazy. 1030 used to be the cutoff for algebra. They used to put most advanced kids in the advanced math class in 6th. They are screwing over a lot of capable kids with artificially high score cutoffs.

It is not really 1046 though. The kids I know that got in to pre algebra got 973 and 897 on the MI. One scored under 550 on the SOL and one scored above. So I don't know why they give that score. Plus it seems like you only need to score really high one on metric.

Be honest, are their parents demanding? Like were they placed there because the parents would cause a fuss if they weren’t?

No far from it. The would be some of the last folks to do such a thing (IMO). The folks I know that do make a fuss, their kids didn't get in.