Is Trump a Traitor?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you believe that Trump levied an army on Jan 6, and went to war against the US government at the Capitol, then yes, he is by definition of a traitor.

If you believe that he gave aid and comfort (in the form of national defense information) to Russia and/or North Korea, and that these nations are enemies of the US, then yes, he is by definition of a traitor.

I think these two actions of his could be construed as traitorous acts, but I understand that to others they might not meet that definition.

There have to be open hostilities according to US Code. The US is involved in a lot of conflict zones, but not directly NK or Russia.

Yup, open hostilities in the U.S. Capitol incited by Donald Trump, recorded and broadcast for the whole world to see.

Debatable (and you also need to look at US Code). He did not "set foot" although he attempted to, he may have incited but he had enough training by Mob lawyer Cohn to be careful how he phrased things. Plus insurrection has its own definition in the US Code separate from that of treason, so there is a distinction between treason an dinsurrection.

In any event there have to be two witnesses or confession in open court.

Treason does not distinguish between participants and accessories; all persons who rebel or intentionally give aid to hostilities are subject to the same charge.

There were billions of witnesses all over the world to Trump's attempt to stay in power by force on January 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jack Smith, didn’t the Supreme Court rebuke him 9-0 in a past case?

Overturned because of the judge’s instructions to the jury with the Supreme Court overturning the previous case law with regard to what constitutes an official action.

The McDonnells took all the bribes and the Governor personally set up meetings and made calls for the briber but the state agency was honest and did not do what the briber wanted. Because the briber didn’t get what he wanted, the Court ruled that McDonnell had not performed an official action for the briber so taking all the bribes was not illegal.

Pretty much the Court’s position on Clarence Thomas.

Completely irrelevant to the Trump case. The Court isn’t going to say that keeping and hiding and lying about boxes of top secret national security documents is legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. But he is one of the top 5 presidents this country ever had.

I think you meant he is certainly one of the top 5 presidents in the 21st century. (Because we have only had 5 presidents since 1/1/2000.)

[Anonymous]

If you base the Presidential ranking on how many arrests on criminal charges, Trump is indeed top 5 of all time. In fact he is leading the field at #1 with 2 arrests, which is 2 more than all other Presidents in our country combined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. But he is one of the top 5 presidents this country ever had.

+1 Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

[Anonymous]

This will be another opportunity to see whether we are a nation that holds criminals like Trump accountable or lets them skate based on power and wealth.

We have an opportunity to correct the mistake we made with Nixon as a country.

[Anonymous]

Yes. He’s garbage. The only people worse are his supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. But he is one of the top 5 presidents this country ever had.

+1 Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

You keep writing this on threads and it makes no sense whatsoever wherever you plop it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. But he is one of the top 5 presidents this country ever had.

+1 Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

You keep writing this on threads and it makes no sense whatsoever wherever you plop it.

DP...It actually makes perfect sense. If you need it explained, a lot of stupid people were and are willing to excuse deplorable behavior because they believe it is in their own personal interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. But he is one of the top 5 presidents this country ever had.

+1 Y'all cain't take away mah freedom.

You keep writing this on threads and it makes no sense whatsoever wherever you plop it.

It makes sense…to those it doesn’t apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you believe that Trump levied an army on Jan 6, and went to war against the US government at the Capitol, then yes, he is by definition of a traitor.

If you believe that he gave aid and comfort (in the form of national defense information) to Russia and/or North Korea, and that these nations are enemies of the US, then yes, he is by definition of a traitor.

I think these two actions of his could be construed as traitorous acts, but I understand that to others they might not meet that definition.

There have to be open hostilities according to US Code. The US is involved in a lot of conflict zones, but not directly NK or Russia.

Yup, open hostilities in the U.S. Capitol incited by Donald Trump, recorded and broadcast for the whole world to see.

By hostilities I assume you mean coup.

[Anonymous]

Schwarzenegger agrees:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12207765/Schwarzenegger-says-stands-comparison-January-6th-Capitol-riots-Kristallnacht.html

'I mean, I think that it is, of course, a different time and all that. But it is kind of like a threat to democracy and a threat of what happens to people when they’re lied to,' he added.

He then claims that the American people are being misled in the same manner his father, a former Nazi, was misled during World War II.

'And this is why I compared it to that. Because in Kristallnacht, I know with my father, who was part of the Nazi party, they were lied to. They were misled. And I think a lot of people in America today are being misled,' he said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you believe that Trump levied an army on Jan 6, and went to war against the US government at the Capitol, then yes, he is by definition of a traitor.

If you believe that he gave aid and comfort (in the form of national defense information) to Russia and/or North Korea, and that these nations are enemies of the US, then yes, he is by definition of a traitor.

I think these two actions of his could be construed as traitorous acts, but I understand that to others they might not meet that definition.

There have to be open hostilities according to US Code. The US is involved in a lot of conflict zones, but not directly NK or Russia.

Yup, open hostilities in the U.S. Capitol incited by Donald Trump, recorded and broadcast for the whole world to see.

By hostilities I assume you mean coup.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jack Smith, didn’t the Supreme Court rebuke him 9-0 in a past case?

In the Bob McConnell conviction, He got $135,000 of gifts in exchange for favors for the CEO of Star Scientific. SCOTUS held that "“Setting up a meeting, calling another public official, or hosting an event does not, standing alone, qualify as an ‘official act.’”" for the purposes of public corruption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump appears to have tried to overthrow our government to remain in power, disclosed information to the Russians in the Oval Office,. and repeatedly placed his own personal interests before that of the Nation he served.

Is he a traitor?

What?