FLE Committee

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I teach 5th. Everything that is taught is available to parents. You can access the K-12 materials, including the PowerPoints, lesson plans, and videos. Parents can see exactly what the teachers see. I would encourage anyone who is upset to actually read the materials— it’s probably way tamer than you think.

The 5th grade lesson on STIs takes about 20 min and basically says “hey, along with pregnancy being a really bad idea when you’re young, sexual contact can also result in infections that can cause serious permanent harm. They can be caused by viruses or bacteria. There are treatments but some are INCURABLE.” It’s an abstinence message, since contraceptives are off limits for discussion until later grades.

Believe me, NONE of what the kids are taught is making any of them want to go out and try anything. It’s very clinical. (Typical student comment: “Um, do we HAVE to do this when we grow up if we want kids? Isn’t there any OTHER way to have a kid?” Another common variant: “I have two sisters so that means my parents had to do this THREE TIMES.” Said pityingly.)

(When my own personal children go through these lessons, I will be supplementing by discussing with them that sex is in fact a fulfilling and enjoyable part of an adult relationship.)

You’re missing the point. We don’t want genders combined while learning this material.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do not combine genders! Why is this so f#%king hard?

Because the FLE committee wants them combined. I guess because they do not want to acknowledge that there are biological girls and biological boys.

They already refuse to acknowledge that fact. The entire school year, FCPS has referred to boys as person “assigned” male at birth. Likewise, they no longer use the word girl; they changed it to person “assigned” female at birth. That gender ideology terminology has been used in all oficial forms of communication by FCPS. The important question at this point would be to find out what do teachers and school staff use with students to refer to boys and girls.

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I notice that the bathrooms still say "Boys" and "Girls". I wonder how long it will be before those are renamed. Honestly, I wake up every morning grateful that my kids are finally done with this nonsense.

When you've been in the schools (assuming you've actually been in schools) noticing the restroom signage, have you ever heard any school based staff member use different terms?

I’m in my kids’ schools all the time. And no, I haven’t heard anyone use different terms for boys and girls, but the comment was in response to the PP who said FCPS now uses “person assigned male/female at birth” in written communication. I was wondering when that nonsense would start trickling down to bathroom signage, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I teach 5th. Everything that is taught is available to parents. You can access the K-12 materials, including the PowerPoints, lesson plans, and videos. Parents can see exactly what the teachers see. I would encourage anyone who is upset to actually read the materials— it’s probably way tamer than you think.

The 5th grade lesson on STIs takes about 20 min and basically says “hey, along with pregnancy being a really bad idea when you’re young, sexual contact can also result in infections that can cause serious permanent harm. They can be caused by viruses or bacteria. There are treatments but some are INCURABLE.” It’s an abstinence message, since contraceptives are off limits for discussion until later grades.

Believe me, NONE of what the kids are taught is making any of them want to go out and try anything. It’s very clinical. (Typical student comment: “Um, do we HAVE to do this when we grow up if we want kids? Isn’t there any OTHER way to have a kid?” Another common variant: “I have two sisters so that means my parents had to do this THREE TIMES.” Said pityingly.)

(When my own personal children go through these lessons, I will be supplementing by discussing with them that sex is in fact a fulfilling and enjoyable part of an adult relationship.)

You’re missing the point. We don’t want genders combined while learning this material.

+1
It’s really very simple.

[Anonymous]

This article linked below, from seven years ago, clearly shows that FCPS considered parental involvement as an important component of the team that would offer support for students who expressed gender dysphoria. What has changed since then that parents are now kept in the dark by FCPS?

Also, it is evident that for the past seven years students who have expressed gender dysphoria have benefited from several school accommodations (bathrooms, lockers, overnight trip lodging, sports, etc.). Now FCPS has moved to use gender neutral terms for everyone; has imposed penalties for students who don’t march to the tune of the gender pronoun rhythm; has implemented an entire curriculum with terms that rival glossaries of any core class - and that include oral and anal sex in their lessons, additional to an entire month of Pride celebrations with constant reminders all year long. Not to mention how it has fostered a culture of shaming and name calling imposed to those who dare to think outside of that box. If this weren’t enough, now FCPS is pushing to have boys and girls TOGETHER to go over sexual reproduction topics and start gender identity lessons at younger ages.

Parental and student input, as expressed in the recent FCPS survey on these changes, mean nothing to the current FCPS School Board nor the FLE committee. In spite of an overwhelming opposition to such proposed changes, this past meeting we saw in full display how the adults talked about their sexuality and how oppressed and victimized they feel because of it. Have they ever bothered to question that this isn’t about them, but rather about the students (all of them) they represent? And, that students need role models that teach them that their identity as human beings is not subordinate to their sexuality? Sadly, it was a missing opportunity to teach students that they can accomplish many things in life not because of their gender identity, but rather in spite of it. We definitely need a more representative School Board and a completely new FLE Committee.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/fairfax_county/fcps-lays-down-the-gender-identity-law/article_934ec356-4554-11e6-9875-ffbb12196880.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do not combine genders! Why is this so f#%king hard?

Because the FLE committee wants them combined. I guess because they do not want to acknowledge that there are biological girls and biological boys.

They already refuse to acknowledge that fact. The entire school year, FCPS has referred to boys as person “assigned” male at birth. Likewise, they no longer use the word girl; they changed it to person “assigned” female at birth. That gender ideology terminology has been used in all oficial forms of communication by FCPS. The important question at this point would be to find out what do teachers and school staff use with students to refer to boys and girls.

+1
I notice that the bathrooms still say "Boys" and "Girls". I wonder how long it will be before those are renamed. Honestly, I wake up every morning grateful that my kids are finally done with this nonsense.

When you've been in the schools (assuming you've actually been in schools) noticing the restroom signage, have you ever heard any school based staff member use different terms?

I’m in my kids’ schools all the time. And no, I haven’t heard anyone use different terms for boys and girls, but the comment was in response to the PP who said FCPS now uses “person assigned male/female at birth” in written communication. I was wondering when that nonsense would start trickling down to bathroom signage, etc.

You have a “+1” to the pp who wrote: The important question at this point would be to find out what do teachers and school staff use with students to refer to boys and girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't realize they teach about STDs in fifth grade.

Read the curriculum.

It used to be a very comprehensive, age appropriate, science and biology based sex ed lesson that most people would be comfortable with.

That is no longer the case.

This school board has systematically destroyed FCPS, especially under the last superintendent. If you care about your kids, it is impreative that you pay attention more than our parents did and more than one would consider a normal level of parent involvement.

November 2023 cannot come soon enough.

The curriculum comes FROM THE STATE. At least have a clue on what you’re talking about. And STDs have been part of 5th grade for AT LEAST the last 6 years.

I wrote the post that the curriculum comes from the state. The idea of combining boys and girls into one class is from FCPS. But the post I commented on is complaining about the CURRICULUM. The poster is whining that the curriculum is no longer age appropriate due to FCPS. That’s just a lie. Do I think the classes should be combined? Absolutely not. I’ve taught both the boys class and the girls class many times. There is no way most elementary-aged girls will feel safe with their questions in a combined class. Proposing or having combined classes demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about children at this age, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't realize they teach about STDs in fifth grade.

Read the curriculum.

It used to be a very comprehensive, age appropriate, science and biology based sex ed lesson that most people would be comfortable with.

That is no longer the case.

This school board has systematically destroyed FCPS, especially under the last superintendent. If you care about your kids, it is impreative that you pay attention more than our parents did and more than one would consider a normal level of parent involvement.

November 2023 cannot come soon enough.

The curriculum comes FROM THE STATE. At least have a clue on what you’re talking about. And STDs have been part of 5th grade for AT LEAST the last 6 years.

I wrote the post that the curriculum comes from the state. The idea of combining boys and girls into one class is from FCPS. But the post I commented on is complaining about the CURRICULUM. The poster is whining that the curriculum is no longer age appropriate due to FCPS. That’s just a lie. Do I think the classes should be combined? Absolutely not. I’ve taught both the boys class and the girls class many times. There is no way most elementary-aged girls will feel safe with their questions in a combined class. Proposing or having combined classes demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about children at this age, IMO.

I teach 6th and 100 percent agree. I am dreading these changes and hope most kids opt out if they go through. They will then realize it is a waste of instructional time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Didn't realize they teach about STDs in fifth grade.

Read the curriculum.

It used to be a very comprehensive, age appropriate, science and biology based sex ed lesson that most people would be comfortable with.

That is no longer the case.

This school board has systematically destroyed FCPS, especially under the last superintendent. If you care about your kids, it is impreative that you pay attention more than our parents did and more than one would consider a normal level of parent involvement.

November 2023 cannot come soon enough.

The curriculum comes FROM THE STATE. At least have a clue on what you’re talking about. And STDs have been part of 5th grade for AT LEAST the last 6 years.

I wrote the post that the curriculum comes from the state. The idea of combining boys and girls into one class is from FCPS. But the post I commented on is complaining about the CURRICULUM. The poster is whining that the curriculum is no longer age appropriate due to FCPS. That’s just a lie. Do I think the classes should be combined? Absolutely not. I’ve taught both the boys class and the girls class many times. There is no way most elementary-aged girls will feel safe with their questions in a combined class. Proposing or having combined classes demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding about children at this age, IMO.

I teach 6th and 100 percent agree. I am dreading these changes and hope most kids opt out if they go through. They will then realize it is a waste of instructional time.

If you have watched any SB meetings, you must understand that this is not about the "average" child who will be offended and uncomfortable. It is about the less than 1%. Just look at who they put on the FLE committee.

[Anonymous]

It is already in the directions for elementary school fle that a student can choose whether they go to the male or female fle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is already in the directions for elementary school fle that a student can choose whether they go to the male or female fle.

This makes absolutely no sense for a biological boy to be learning all the necessary details of pads and tampons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is already in the directions for elementary school fle that a student can choose whether they go to the male or female fle.

This makes absolutely no sense for a biological boy to be learning all the necessary details of pads and tampons.

It’s not that complicated. This is a pad, this is a tampon, don’t flush them.

I think it is absolutely important for girls to learn about boys and vice versa. That’s been the curriculum for many years and is the standard in most places.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is already in the directions for elementary school fle that a student can choose whether they go to the male or female fle.

This makes absolutely no sense for a biological boy to be learning all the necessary details of pads and tampons.

It’s not that complicated. This is a pad, this is a tampon, don’t flush them.

I think it is absolutely important for girls to learn about boys and vice versa. That’s been the curriculum for many years and is the standard in most places.

You clearly do not understand how fifth and sixth grade girls operate. Sure, boys need to understand the way bodies work, but handling periods is unique to girls. It is not as simple as showing what a pad is and how it works. But, I think you know that and it does not fit your agenda.

Were you ever an eleven year old girl? If you were, you would know that they are sensitive enough about these topics and it certainly would not help to be included with boys.
We all know that this is just to satisfy the less than 1%.

This is gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is already in the directions for elementary school fle that a student can choose whether they go to the male or female fle.

This makes absolutely no sense for a biological boy to be learning all the necessary details of pads and tampons.

It’s not that complicated. This is a pad, this is a tampon, don’t flush them.

I think it is absolutely important for girls to learn about boys and vice versa. That’s been the curriculum for many years and is the standard in most places.

You clearly do not understand how fifth and sixth grade girls operate. Sure, boys need to understand the way bodies work, but handling periods is unique to girls. It is not as simple as showing what a pad is and how it works. But, I think you know that and it does not fit your agenda.

Were you ever an eleven year old girl? If you were, you would know that they are sensitive enough about these topics and it certainly would not help to be included with boys.
We all know that this is just to satisfy the less than 1%.

This is gaslighting.

+1 it’s absolutely disgusting. We need to stand up for our girls. Not these fake girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is already in the directions for elementary school fle that a student can choose whether they go to the male or female fle.

This makes absolutely no sense for a biological boy to be learning all the necessary details of pads and tampons.

It’s not that complicated. This is a pad, this is a tampon, don’t flush them.

I think it is absolutely important for girls to learn about boys and vice versa. That’s been the curriculum for many years and is the standard in most places.

You clearly do not understand how fifth and sixth grade girls operate. Sure, boys need to understand the way bodies work, but handling periods is unique to girls. It is not as simple as showing what a pad is and how it works. But, I think you know that and it does not fit your agenda.

Were you ever an eleven year old girl? If you were, you would know that they are sensitive enough about these topics and it certainly would not help to be included with boys.
We all know that this is just to satisfy the less than 1%.

This is gaslighting.

+1 it’s absolutely disgusting. We need to stand up for our girls. Not these fake girls.

Being told that you are going to bleed every month and that it may be uncomfortable is troubling enough. Then, to learn all the hygeine that needs to be followed is an add-on.

What are these people thinking? They call themselves compassionate. Remember, some of the members of the FLE committee who were not born women would not understand. Others are so wrapped up in being "politically correct" and "progressive" that they are ignoring the emotions of young girls in favor of the confused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article linked below, from seven years ago, clearly shows that FCPS considered parental involvement as an important component of the team that would offer support for students who expressed gender dysphoria. What has changed since then that parents are now kept in the dark by FCPS?

Also, it is evident that for the past seven years students who have expressed gender dysphoria have benefited from several school accommodations (bathrooms, lockers, overnight trip lodging, sports, etc.). Now FCPS has moved to use gender neutral terms for everyone; has imposed penalties for students who don’t march to the tune of the gender pronoun rhythm; has implemented an entire curriculum with terms that rival glossaries of any core class - and that include oral and anal sex in their lessons, additional to an entire month of Pride celebrations with constant reminders all year long. Not to mention how it has fostered a culture of shaming and name calling imposed to those who dare to think outside of that box. If this weren’t enough, now FCPS is pushing to have boys and girls TOGETHER to go over sexual reproduction topics and start gender identity lessons at younger ages.

Parental and student input, as expressed in the recent FCPS survey on these changes, mean nothing to the current FCPS School Board nor the FLE committee. In spite of an overwhelming opposition to such proposed changes, this past meeting we saw in full display how the adults talked about their sexuality and how oppressed and victimized they feel because of it. Have they ever bothered to question that this isn’t about them, but rather about the students (all of them) they represent? And, that students need role models that teach them that their identity as human beings is not subordinate to their sexuality? Sadly, it was a missing opportunity to teach students that they can accomplish many things in life not because of their gender identity, but rather in spite of it. We definitely need a more representative School Board and a completely new FLE Committee.

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/fairfax_county/fcps-lays-down-the-gender-identity-law/article_934ec356-4554-11e6-9875-ffbb12196880.html

Well said. Totally agree.