Remote work is toast

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Article after article like this one. Can’t wait for the feds to wise up and save our city.

https://fortune.com/2023/06/14/is-remote-work-era-ending-doomed-4-reasons-why-productivity/


I’ve lived in DC on and off since the late 80s. It has nothing to do with on-site feds (there was no remote work in the 90s and DC was a dump).

Gentrification led to over expanding. My neighborhood alone went from lovely row homes to over priced condos, no play space for families and NINE coffee shops in three blocks. Eventually those young people get married and have kids. They want playgrounds. They want good schools and they want more than just latte and gelato.


I’m talking about downtown. Y’all need to get back here. Stop being selfish hermits in the exurbs and get back into the city in offices where you belong. That’s what you signed up for when you took your job. Stop fleecing the taxpayers.


arguably, wasting money on office rents and commuting time is the actual fleecing ….
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care so much? Work in the office or don't, but stop policing everyone else's behavior. Keep your eyes on your own paper.


It’s my tax dollars at work. Or not at work. That’s the problem.

But it’s cool. It’ll all be over soon enough.

Your taxes pay for private businesses? That’s what the article you linked is about.


Yea you’re a logical thinker. Not.

Ooh, ad hominem! Always the sign of someone with a good point! At least I know the difference between “yeah” and “yea.”


Well, now you’re resorting to correcting my English, rather than addressing the ridiculousness of your argument. The true sign of defeat.

Whatever you say, sweetie
Anonymous
NOMA worker again. BTW, my fed agency just expanded its remote work program and going to hoteling/reserving office space for employees when going into the office. Doubt we will be reversing course anytime soon, given this is all being negotiated with the union.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Article after article like this one. Can’t wait for the feds to wise up and save our city.

https://fortune.com/2023/06/14/is-remote-work-era-ending-doomed-4-reasons-why-productivity/


I’ve lived in DC on and off since the late 80s. It has nothing to do with on-site feds (there was no remote work in the 90s and DC was a dump).

Gentrification led to over expanding. My neighborhood alone went from lovely row homes to over priced condos, no play space for families and NINE coffee shops in three blocks. Eventually those young people get married and have kids. They want playgrounds. They want good schools and they want more than just latte and gelato.


I’m talking about downtown. Y’all need to get back here. Stop being selfish hermits in the exurbs and get back into the city in offices where you belong. That’s what you signed up for when you took your job. Stop fleecing the taxpayers.


whatever. i live two miles from the office and i'm absolutely more efficient at home. it takes over 10 minutes to get through security and to walk to my office. i don't go out to lunch, there's no point. at home i might stop by the coffeeshop for a lunchbreak since i CAN do that in 30 minutes. i do spend a bunch of time just socializing at the office when i go in since its apparently so godawful important.

anyway, giant swathes of corporate and government real estate has always resulted in an evening wasteland. the city needs better residential options, not people in cubicles.

no one is fleecing the taxpayers by working from home, except for maybe the contractors who we are not allowed to ask if they are working two jobs at once.

i think middle managers are just big mad that there aren't any young women in the office to harass and try to have an affair with.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Weird. I’m seeing more articles like this one about how RTO has stalled https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-return-to-the-office-has-stalled-e0af9741


Not because employers don’t want it.

I just laugh at the suggestion that workers are more “productive“ at home. We all know that is not why workers want to work remotely. This is an anonymous forum. Why can’t you just admit it? You want to work remotely because it is easier for you and easier for childcare. Not because you think it’s more productive. You don’t care about productivity at all.


Is it unfathomable that having it be easier for the employee and for childcare and for dinner and for 100 other different reasons might actually make employees more engaged in work because their attention isn't diverted 100 different ways or worried at 430 that they must leave in 5 minutes or they won't make pickup times and then driving like mad people to get home? That with less stress at home, they may be able to handle more stress at work. That being able to coach Larlos little league means they are more likely to work at 7pm ?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NOMA worker again. BTW, my fed agency just expanded its remote work program and going to hoteling/reserving office space for employees when going into the office. Doubt we will be reversing course anytime soon, given this is all being negotiated with the union.


My NOMA Fed office just expanded remote work.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care so much? Work in the office or don't, but stop policing everyone else's behavior. Keep your eyes on your own paper.


It’s my tax dollars at work. Or not at work. That’s the problem.

But it’s cool. It’ll all be over soon enough.

Dream on.
Anonymous
Why do people keep indulging this troll. S/he starts a thread practically every day on the same topic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do people keep indulging this troll. S/he starts a thread practically every day on the same topic.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Article after article like this one. Can’t wait for the feds to wise up and save our city.

https://fortune.com/2023/06/14/is-remote-work-era-ending-doomed-4-reasons-why-productivity/

HaHa! F your city. Not happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Article after article like this one. Can’t wait for the feds to wise up and save our city.

https://fortune.com/2023/06/14/is-remote-work-era-ending-doomed-4-reasons-why-productivity/


Nope. I will continue with my hybrid 2 days a week in the office in perpetuity, thankyouverymuch!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care so much? Work in the office or don't, but stop policing everyone else's behavior. Keep your eyes on your own paper.


It’s my tax dollars at work. Or not at work. That’s the problem.

But it’s cool. It’ll all be over soon enough.


I have to agree. I have a friend -- lovely person -- who is a fed, works from home and is an avid reader. She literally reads books during the work day! She loves to "work" from home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care so much? Work in the office or don't, but stop policing everyone else's behavior. Keep your eyes on your own paper.


It’s my tax dollars at work. Or not at work. That’s the problem.

But it’s cool. It’ll all be over soon enough.


I have to agree. I have a friend -- lovely person -- who is a fed, works from home and is an avid reader. She literally reads books during the work day! She loves to "work" from home.


But aren't those type of people also unproductive in the office? Yes, it's harder to sit and read a book at your desk, but you could be doing other things. Just because you are in the office doesn't mean you are working.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care so much? Work in the office or don't, but stop policing everyone else's behavior. Keep your eyes on your own paper.


It’s my tax dollars at work. Or not at work. That’s the problem.

But it’s cool. It’ll all be over soon enough.


I have to agree. I have a friend -- lovely person -- who is a fed, works from home and is an avid reader. She literally reads books during the work day! She loves to "work" from home.


But aren't those type of people also unproductive in the office? Yes, it's harder to sit and read a book at your desk, but you could be doing other things. Just because you are in the office doesn't mean you are working.


Agree. I feel like am not the most productive - I tend to cluster work - but I always get good reviews as a “hard worker.” I waste time equally in the office as at home. Possibly waste more time in the office since now merely having my body there seems to constitute a job duty. That said, I am very in favor of hybrid and going in at least one, if not two days a week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you care so much? Work in the office or don't, but stop policing everyone else's behavior. Keep your eyes on your own paper.


It’s my tax dollars at work. Or not at work. That’s the problem.

But it’s cool. It’ll all be over soon enough.


I have to agree. I have a friend -- lovely person -- who is a fed, works from home and is an avid reader. She literally reads books during the work day! She loves to "work" from home.


But aren't those type of people also unproductive in the office? Yes, it's harder to sit and read a book at your desk, but you could be doing other things. Just because you are in the office doesn't mean you are working.


I'd wager many of us are in the office not working right now, and I also take books to bathroom at work and have for decades. It's never stopped me from getting my work done, so I don't really care if people on the internet judge me for it.
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