DS can't run...
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Anonymous
No, you don't know what you are talking about. Elite is in the 15s(or better) 16-17 is strong and will finish well and will win some meets that aren't too competitive. Average boy is closer to 7-7 and a half minutes. 9 minutes would be toward the back of the pack and that kid doesn't/can't train, and is probably overweight or has some other limitation, physical or otherwise. OPs kid is a varsity swimmer and is running 7s. If he did a season if XC and put forth the effort he could easily get to a sub 6 mile and maybe even down to that magical 5:20. |
Anonymous
This is wrong. If you can run 5:20 or better ( obviously most can’t) you get the maximum score for that event (100). You don’t need to run 5:20 for admission |
Anonymous
Swimming is great training for running. Aside from swimming he should just start with slow easy running. The goal of a beginning runner should be to get to 5 days of very easy running 30min per day before adding any fast running in. If he can't sustain a 30min run right now, have run a minute easy, walk a minute briskly for 30 minutes, and as time goes by he can start decreasing the walk portion and increase the run portion. A HSer who swims and runs 150min/week can then throw in some speed work (think 200s and 400s fast on a track) but should be able to run 5:20 pretty easily |
Anonymous
From an XC and track perspective 5:20 is an okay time for a freshman. It is very attainable for anyone who trains a little. If I had to give a loose parameter I would say 4:50 or better is "varsity caliber" with lots of local kids running in the 4:20s and 30s. 4:50-5:10 is firmly JV. Anyone over 5:10 is just along for the ride. Not uncommon for the top local HS teams to have 20+ sub 5 milers. In XC, 5:20 pace for a 5k is pretty quick. It would usually put you right around the bubble for Top 25 in each state classification (generalizing here because each course/field is different) |
Anonymous
 Just not true.
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Anonymous
Cross country has many benefits, including building tenacity. But to run fast for a short distance, one needs to practice this. As a sport, I’d choose soccer, bball or LAX over cross country. |
Anonymous
| Oh DCUM, you’re at it again - did anyone bother to READ the requirements? Applicants have 10 minutes allotted to complete the mile. There is a 5 min “rest” that comes BEFORE the run. That means the applicant can take UP TO 5 minutes rest, but the actual run can start at 30 mins into the test, with the test finishing at or under 40 mins total. OP’s son does not NEED to run a 5 min mile, and absolutely should be able to run between 7-8. |
Anonymous
| These requirements are not that hard jfc |
Anonymous
You must have a very fast school. For the VHSL 6A state championships, 2 runners had their second mile under 5:20, no one was had even a single mile better than 4:41, there were no sub 4:30 miles at all https://va.milesplit.com/meets/462160-vhsl-class-6-state-xc-meet-2022/results/865064#.ZFOutOzMKWs |
Anonymous
OMG, no. This is not true. --USNA grad and interviewer of service academy applicants |
Anonymous
??? where are you getting this from??? --grad again |
Anonymous
| My second grader can run a 6 minute mile and he’s tall |
Anonymous
Good for him.
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Anonymous
5:20 is to max out the run, right? -wife of a naval officer who has never come CLOSE to that |
Anonymous
Not talking about averaging 5:20 a mile for a 5k but rather a kid that runs a 5k in say, 17:30 or even an 18 flat, is easily able to run a single mile in 5:20. ie what you might expect a time in one race/distance(5k) to TRANSLATE to a different distance(1 mile). |