DS can't run...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He needs a 5:20 mile, but if he's in good shape that's doable. Work on running and see where he his and he just needs to know that when it's timed he needs to go flat out even if it means falling over right after he finishes.

OMG, no. This is not true.

--USNA grad and interviewer of service academy applicants

5:20 is to max out the run, right?

-wife of a naval officer who has never come CLOSE to that

OK, I had to look this up. Because you know how it's so tempting to just default to what you remember and expect that nothing's changed, and then you're like "wait...dude, that was XX years ago!! Stop forgetting that you're OLD!!"

So, there are multiple fitness tests and people confuse them all. There's the candidate fitness assessment
https://www.navy-prt.com/specialty-fitness-standards/naval-academy-entrance-standards/us-naval-academy-candidate-fitness-test/
and that is the test for applicants so the Admissions Board gets some idea of where this person is physically. It's a very weird test because, looking at this, there are technically no minimums. You can see what they're doing here, can't you? There are going to be some applicants whom they absolutely do not want to lose, and they're certainly not going to let a little mile run disqualify them when they've got four years to whip you into shape. It's one of those "Just do your best." The 5:20 is, as some PPs have observed, the "maximum." Running it faster than 5:20 will not score you any additional points.

Then there's the regular physical fitness assessment that's administered every semester during your time at the Academy. This, of course, has also changed since My Day. The basic idea is the same. For each section, there's a maximum that gets you an A+ and a minimum that gets you a D-. You take the average for your score, but failing any individual section fails the entire test. They average this with your PE grade for that semester, and that also gets averaged with your military performance grade, and it goes into your overall military score for that semester, which is separate from your academic GPA for that semester. I digress. But don't make the mistake of thinking that PE grade is a no-brainer A like it is in high school. You can, for example, get a legitimate D in Wrestling. Ask me how I know. Here's the instruction for the physical fitness assessment. The running portion is a mile and a half. Maximum points for a male is at 8:15. You get a D- at 10:30.

Once you graduate and move on to the regular Navy, things get much, much easier.
https://www.navy-prt.com/2022-navy-prt-standards/
Also, if you don't feel like running, you can do the elliptical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He needs a 5:20 mile, but if he's in good shape that's doable. Work on running and see where he his and he just needs to know that when it's timed he needs to go flat out even if it means falling over right after he finishes.

OMG, no. This is not true.

--USNA grad and interviewer of service academy applicants

5:20 is to max out the run, right?

-wife of a naval officer who has never come CLOSE to that

OK, I had to look this up. Because you know how it's so tempting to just default to what you remember and expect that nothing's changed, and then you're like "wait...dude, that was XX years ago!! Stop forgetting that you're OLD!!"

So, there are multiple fitness tests and people confuse them all. There's the candidate fitness assessment
https://www.navy-prt.com/specialty-fitness-standards/naval-academy-entrance-standards/us-naval-academy-candidate-fitness-test/
and that is the test for applicants so the Admissions Board gets some idea of where this person is physically. It's a very weird test because, looking at this, there are technically no minimums. You can see what they're doing here, can't you? There are going to be some applicants whom they absolutely do not want to lose, and they're certainly not going to let a little mile run disqualify them when they've got four years to whip you into shape. It's one of those "Just do your best." The 5:20 is, as some PPs have observed, the "maximum." Running it faster than 5:20 will not score you any additional points.

Then there's the regular physical fitness assessment that's administered every semester during your time at the Academy. This, of course, has also changed since My Day. The basic idea is the same. For each section, there's a maximum that gets you an A+ and a minimum that gets you a D-. You take the average for your score, but failing any individual section fails the entire test. They average this with your PE grade for that semester, and that also gets averaged with your military performance grade, and it goes into your overall military score for that semester, which is separate from your academic GPA for that semester. I digress. But don't make the mistake of thinking that PE grade is a no-brainer A like it is in high school. You can, for example, get a legitimate D in Wrestling. Ask me how I know. Here's the instruction for the physical fitness assessment. The running portion is a mile and a half. Maximum points for a male is at 8:15. You get a D- at 10:30.

Once you graduate and move on to the regular Navy, things get much, much easier.
https://www.navy-prt.com/2022-navy-prt-standards/
Also, if you don't feel like running, you can do the elliptical.

Thank you for posting some actual information! That was very interesting (as opposed to the pissing match over how fast an average high school kid can run).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My second grader can run a 6 minute mile and he’s tall

Good for him.

Thanks Jan!