| Buffalo is a Northeastern city in the Rust Belt. The Rust Belt spans large swaths of the Northeast to Midwest (think Lawrence, Mass., to St. Louis, Mo.). |
I’m from Rochester, only about 60 miles from Buffalo and very similar in culture. I like this descriptive use of the term “cousins”. I also think we’re nice people, and very different from our downstate fellow citizens. “Midwestern nice”, imo, is a real thing. I winter in SW Florida and there are midwesterners all over the place. Almost all of them are salt of the earth nice. When asked where we are from we always say WNY in an attempt to distinguish ourselves from some of the negative connotations of the NYC/NJ area. |
| Rust Belt is the correct answer (I'm from that area of NY state). much in common with, for example, Pittsburgh. NOT the midwest |
The reason I say that NY people are not "Midwestern nice" is that they are direct. They are friendly and nice, but direct. One of the hallmarks of Midwestern culture is that they are indirect. Midwesterners are basically masters of throwing shade, damning with faint praise, etc. They insult people so subtly that only other Midwesterners (or brits) can pick up on it. The great thing is that you grow up learning to be very polite and handle even extreme frustration in a way unlikely to arouse any retaliation. |
East Coast?! |
Yes? East Coast is a geographic distinction not a qualitative one. There are plenty of shitholes throughout the east coast. |
| Is Rochester more similar to Hartford or Minneapolis? |
+1 Exactly! People shouldn't write off or describe any entire area, state or region. |
Of course there are shitholes on the East Coast. Buffalo is not on the East Coast. It's over a 7 hour drive from the coast. NY State may touch the coast. Most of its people may live an hour or less from the coast. But just being in NY State does not make a municipality an East Coast municipality. I believe I posted on page 1 that Western NY is its own thing. Nobody wants to own it. |
| I know what you mean. That's why I opt to say Northeast instead of East Coast to avoid confusion. |
...yes. Did you fail elementary school geography? |
That's pathetic. I lived in Massachusetts for years and visited all over New York state. I definitely met people like you, who were like, "Oh that's Buffalo, that's not REALLY New York." You know what all those people had in common? They were desperate for clout and thirstily latched onto NYC as if licking the pee-stained pavement would give them the validation they so desperately craved. Boston had people with this same attitude, to be fair. It's this sad BS that is causing the downfall of our country. |
Is Tallahassee an East Coast city? |
| Neither. I’m from Cleveland and people call it Midwest - but Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit are all what I consider “Great Lakes” |
Ok, then give it to Canada. Or let it become its own state. Pretty sure if the time ever came that there was a serious chance of losing votes and tax revenues from Western NY, whether from having it letting it become a separate state or the newest Canadian province, you'd quickly sit up and not only claim it as New York, but wax poetic about how culturally New York it is. |