Team work dinner scheduled first night of Passover

[Anonymous]

You don't even have to say that it's a conflict for you personally--something like "That's the first night of Passover" should do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re not comfortable, have a colleague send a note pointing out that it’s the first night of Passover. Most non-Jews wouldn’t have put it together. That would give him the opportunity to reschedule. If there isn’t such a person, then decline the dinner on account of Passover.

+1. Most likely an oversight. Most non-Jews probably don’t know the exact dates of Passover off the top of their head.

I hate excuses like this. It’s on every calendar. No one scheduled anything on Christian holidays. It is time to do better.

2% of the US population is Jewish and 1% is Muslim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot

That's not a list of Holy Days of Obligation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

As are many of the more observant populations within any religion. Which is why people shouldn't assume about the practices of others and why practitioners need to be comfortable speaking up about their restrictions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

As are many of the more observant populations within any religion. Which is why people shouldn't assume about the practices of others and why practitioners need to be comfortable speaking up about their restrictions.

It’s true, but scheduling something with a DC-based group on the first night of Passover is a faux pas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

Passover isn't equivalent to a Holy Day of Obligation. Holy Days, other than Christmas, are days when observant Catholics go to work and school, and fit in a mass that might last 45 minutes. Scheduling a work dinner on a Holy Day of Obligation would be fine.

Passover is, as I understand it, the Holiest point of the year other than the High Holy Days, and there is an expectation of gathering with family. That's more like Christmas than other Catholic holidays (with Good Friday and Easter, the holiest days of the Catholic year being like the High Holy Days).

-- Observant Catholic who would know not to schedule things on the first two nights of Passover, but might forget to look up the date and accidentally do so, and would appreciate someone telling me so I could move it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot

That's not a list of Holy Days of Obligation.

A lot of them are holy days of obligation .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot

That's not a list of Holy Days of Obligation.

A lot of them are holy days of obligation .

At most, depending on days of the week that they fall on, two of them (Feast of the Immaculate Conception, and All Saints day) are days of obligation. Neither of them are days when a team work dinner would be a problem. You can't compare a day of obligation other than Christmas or Easter to Passover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because it's on a calendar doesn't mean that:

1) People understand the significance.
2) People know your personal level of adherence.

Also, let's please not pretend that this only happens to religious minorities in the US. The percentage of Americans that can list the Holy Days of Obligation for Catholics must be exceptionally small. We should all maintain broad understanding of other cultures/religions, but it's unreasonable to expect global awareness. It's okay for people to have to advocate for themselves.

Catholics who observe the Holy Days of Obligation (that aren't already federal holidays because the federal calendar is built on Christianity) are a religious minority in the United States.

Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, Valentines Day, St. Patrick’s Day, Fat Tuesday, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, All Saints Day. There is a lot

How can Americans be this ignorant? You think of all things that.......Valentines Day is a Catholic thing?

You know Madonna doesn't sing in Latin don't you 😀😀

The Feast of Saint Valentine, also known as Saint Valentine's Day, was established by Pope Gelasius I in AD 496 to be celebrated on February 14 in honour of the Christian martyr.

That doesn't make it a holy day of obligation. Nor is St. Patrick's day or Fat Tuesday.

Or Holy Thursday, Good Friday, or Ash Wednesday, even though many Catholics go to Mass on those days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re not comfortable, have a colleague send a note pointing out that it’s the first night of Passover. Most non-Jews wouldn’t have put it together. That would give him the opportunity to reschedule. If there isn’t such a person, then decline the dinner on account of Passover.

+1. Most likely an oversight. Most non-Jews probably don’t know the exact dates of Passover off the top of their head.

I hate excuses like this. It’s on every calendar. No one scheduled anything on Christian holidays. It is time to do better.

Not true I got invited to a Steakhouse on Good Friday. I also worked Christmas Day with a Japanese Client. People just book things. Mostly they don’t care if a few can’t make it. I have a family to support so I am sure God down with it

Heck the last supper was a work thing

This whole post is A+

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would definitely point it out. I feel like if you mention it is the first night of Passover, any reasonable person would say, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize. I would certainly mention it before making any kind of decision about which to prioritize.

+1

The answer is so simple, yet there are 4 pages of overthinking. And if he does not reschedule it, don't attend. Are you in the DC area? Even if he does not know when passover is, he will understand that it's a high holiday and it's importance.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't want to go to a work team anything after work hours, religion or no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re not comfortable, have a colleague send a note pointing out that it’s the first night of Passover. Most non-Jews wouldn’t have put it together. That would give him the opportunity to reschedule. If there isn’t such a person, then decline the dinner on account of Passover.

+1. Most likely an oversight. Most non-Jews probably don’t know the exact dates of Passover off the top of their head.

I hate excuses like this. It’s on every calendar. No one scheduled anything on Christian holidays. It is time to do better.

Not true I got invited to a Steakhouse on Good Friday. I also worked Christmas Day with a Japanese Client. People just book things. Mostly they don’t care if a few can’t make it. I have a family to support so I am sure God down with it

Heck the last supper was a work thing

This whole post is A+

Meeting minutes for Last Supper are on line.

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/official-meeting-minutes-from-the-last-supper