Time To Reimagine Council Recall Procedures?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There's good reason not to have recalls within the first year after an election — it prevents just redoing the election immediately after it's over. (Imagine, for instance, that there was a provision for recalls of federal elected officials in place after the 2020 election, and you can see why this is a good policy in the abstract.)

Also, there's no particular reason that HR policies should be exactly equivalent between private corporations and elected official positions.

That's all without even getting into the substance of whatever your specific gripe with Frumin is; it's been about a month since he was sworn in, so it seems hard to imagine that any large number of voters in Ward 3 have "seen enough" to want to reverse the results of the election. It may feel like it's been longer, because he effectively won office when he won the Democratic primary last summer, but that isn't the case.


Normally, I think most people would agree with you. But, this is about public safety. We can’t wait another year for Frumin and Allen to evolve on this issue. It took Mary Cheh personally becoming a victim to get her to pay attention. Lives and our economy are literally in the balance. We need action NOW!


Who's "we"?


Who is we? How bout the 65 people who’ve had their cars violently taken from them in 2023?

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/carjacking

Or, the elderly couple who were stripped at gunpoint?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/couple-walking-around-dupont-circle-robbed-of-canada-goose-jackets/3273067/

Or, the small business owners robbed multiple times?

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/suspect-robs-chocolate-shop-twice-hits-another-store-in-northwest-dc-police/3272241/


Probably a few other folks too.


p.s. Add Democrat congresswoman to the “we”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/09/politics/angie-craig-assault/index.html


Also part of the “we”:

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/woman-kidnapped-robbed-of-8000-in-northwest-dc-police
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's good reason not to have recalls within the first year after an election — it prevents just redoing the election immediately after it's over. (Imagine, for instance, that there was a provision for recalls of federal elected officials in place after the 2020 election, and you can see why this is a good policy in the abstract.)

Also, there's no particular reason that HR policies should be exactly equivalent between private corporations and elected official positions.

That's all without even getting into the substance of whatever your specific gripe with Frumin is; it's been about a month since he was sworn in, so it seems hard to imagine that any large number of voters in Ward 3 have "seen enough" to want to reverse the results of the election. It may feel like it's been longer, because he effectively won office when he won the Democratic primary last summer, but that isn't the case.


Normally, I think most people would agree with you. But, this is about public safety. We can’t wait another year for Frumin and Allen to evolve on this issue. It took Mary Cheh personally becoming a victim to get her to pay attention. Lives and our economy are literally in the balance. We need action NOW!


Crime is down. Turn off the Fox News and go walk around outside.


DC Council 2019-2022: “Let’s decriminalize a bunch of crimes”

Rando DCUM Poster 2023: “Wow, crime went down”.


More specifically, violent crime is down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's good reason not to have recalls within the first year after an election — it prevents just redoing the election immediately after it's over. (Imagine, for instance, that there was a provision for recalls of federal elected officials in place after the 2020 election, and you can see why this is a good policy in the abstract.)

Also, there's no particular reason that HR policies should be exactly equivalent between private corporations and elected official positions.

That's all without even getting into the substance of whatever your specific gripe with Frumin is; it's been about a month since he was sworn in, so it seems hard to imagine that any large number of voters in Ward 3 have "seen enough" to want to reverse the results of the election. It may feel like it's been longer, because he effectively won office when he won the Democratic primary last summer, but that isn't the case.


Normally, I think most people would agree with you. But, this is about public safety. We can’t wait another year for Frumin and Allen to evolve on this issue. It took Mary Cheh personally becoming a victim to get her to pay attention. Lives and our economy are literally in the balance. We need action NOW!


Crime is down. Turn off the Fox News and go walk around outside.


DC Council 2019-2022: “Let’s decriminalize a bunch of crimes”

Rando DCUM Poster 2023: “Wow, crime went down”.


More specifically, violent crime is down.

LOL, no.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's good reason not to have recalls within the first year after an election — it prevents just redoing the election immediately after it's over. (Imagine, for instance, that there was a provision for recalls of federal elected officials in place after the 2020 election, and you can see why this is a good policy in the abstract.)

Also, there's no particular reason that HR policies should be exactly equivalent between private corporations and elected official positions.

That's all without even getting into the substance of whatever your specific gripe with Frumin is; it's been about a month since he was sworn in, so it seems hard to imagine that any large number of voters in Ward 3 have "seen enough" to want to reverse the results of the election. It may feel like it's been longer, because he effectively won office when he won the Democratic primary last summer, but that isn't the case.


Normally, I think most people would agree with you. But, this is about public safety. We can’t wait another year for Frumin and Allen to evolve on this issue. It took Mary Cheh personally becoming a victim to get her to pay attention. Lives and our economy are literally in the balance. We need action NOW!


The alarming recent violent crimes notwithstanding, Mary Cheh could have avoided becoming a victim of crime if she had taken the fairly reasonable preventive step of bringing her car keys with her when she left her car to pick up her food, rather than leaving it running and unlocked on the street.


please, please shut up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's good reason not to have recalls within the first year after an election — it prevents just redoing the election immediately after it's over. (Imagine, for instance, that there was a provision for recalls of federal elected officials in place after the 2020 election, and you can see why this is a good policy in the abstract.)

Also, there's no particular reason that HR policies should be exactly equivalent between private corporations and elected official positions.

That's all without even getting into the substance of whatever your specific gripe with Frumin is; it's been about a month since he was sworn in, so it seems hard to imagine that any large number of voters in Ward 3 have "seen enough" to want to reverse the results of the election. It may feel like it's been longer, because he effectively won office when he won the Democratic primary last summer, but that isn't the case.


Normally, I think most people would agree with you. But, this is about public safety. We can’t wait another year for Frumin and Allen to evolve on this issue. It took Mary Cheh personally becoming a victim to get her to pay attention. Lives and our economy are literally in the balance. We need action NOW!


Crime is down. Turn off the Fox News and go walk around outside.


DC Council 2019-2022: “Let’s decriminalize a bunch of crimes”

Rando DCUM Poster 2023: “Wow, crime went down”.


More specifically, violent crime is down.


DC is on pace to have the most homicides since 1995. This is a stunning reversal of hard won progress.
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