Nanny got in car accident

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

Stop assuming that she was following too closely. The car in front came to abrupt stop and rear ending can easily happen.

that's pretty much the definition of following too closely. Hence the 3 second rule, which nobody seems to follow.

The "3 second rule" is a cute idea but leaving that much space means someone's just going to cut in front of you and close that gap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Supposedly what happened is that my nanny was stopped at a corner to turn right at a green light. There was a car in front of her that was also turning right and had already started to turn and then slammed on its breaks very suddenly right after turning because some high school kids (they were near a school) ran out into the street to cross. My nanny said it happened so fast that she plowed into the car in front of her. There happened to be a police car down the street so it came over to file a report. Supposedly these kids running like crazy have caused a few accidents.

In daylight the damage to the car seems much more extensive - something was leaking overnight the front bumper fell down on one side and the two front car doors are very hard to open.

When you’re turning right you have to always be aware of the potential for pedestrians. It is lucky that the first car saw them because apparently nanny didn’t. This sounds like only property damage and that’s a great result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

Stop assuming that she was following too closely. The car in front came to abrupt stop and rear ending can easily happen.

that's pretty much the definition of following too closely. Hence the 3 second rule, which nobody seems to follow.

The "3 second rule" is a cute idea but leaving that much space means someone's just going to cut in front of you and close that gap.

Sure, if you follow the 3 second rule, people will cut in front of you. That’s when you ease up until you have a new three second gap. It’s easier when they give you notice they’re moving over, so you can start giving them space before they get there.

Having to let in some extra cars may slow me down a little, but it’s not that big a delay. I’m more focused on getting places safely than getting there fast. If a nanny (or anyone) was driving my kids, I’d certainly want safety to be their top priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Supposedly what happened is that my nanny was stopped at a corner to turn right at a green light. There was a car in front of her that was also turning right and had already started to turn and then slammed on its breaks very suddenly right after turning because some high school kids (they were near a school) ran out into the street to cross. My nanny said it happened so fast that she plowed into the car in front of her. There happened to be a police car down the street so it came over to file a report. Supposedly these kids running like crazy have caused a few accidents.

In daylight the damage to the car seems much more extensive - something was leaking overnight the front bumper fell down on one side and the two front car doors are very hard to open.

Doors not opening correctly leads me to believe there's frame damage. They may total the car. What's the mileage?

My car didn't look bad when I hit a deer this past fall but they totaled it because of the mileage (2016, 103k miles).

[Anonymous]

This is why I hate driving in DC near schools at dismissal time. I've seen so many kids - old enough to know better - dart in front of cars or cross against the lights.

[Anonymous]

I was in a similar accident. I was stopped at a light and it turned green and the car in front of me started to go so I did too, but they immediately stopped and I couldn't so I rear ended them.

Basically no damage to their SUV but my honda civic with >100K miles was totaled. It was a low speed accident, but enough that the engine was dislodged from it's place in the car and would have been to expensive to fix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

Stop assuming that she was following too closely. The car in front came to abrupt stop and rear ending can easily happen.

that's pretty much the definition of following too closely. Hence the 3 second rule, which nobody seems to follow.

The three-second rule doesn't work when turning from a stop. No one watched the car in front of you turn, and then waits three seconds to start turning. My guess is that they were stopped to turn, the first car started to turn, nanny accelerated and didn't stop in time when the front car slammed on the breaks to avoid hitting a pedestrian. Yes, her fault, but not really a three-second rule thing, more of an over-acceleration/not paying close attention thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you're responsible. She's your employee on your insurance.

wrong, insurance and the police will determine who is responsible and at fault

Insurance is going to say nanny is responsible because anyone doing the rear ending is Always at fault. It’s the car belonging to the employers, hence it is their problem. Police never determine fault unless they witness it. You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you're responsible. She's your employee on your insurance.

wrong, insurance and the police will determine who is responsible and at fault

Insurance is going to say nanny is responsible because anyone doing the rear ending is Always at fault. It’s the car belonging to the employers, hence it is their problem. Police never determine fault unless they witness it. You clearly have no clue what you’re talking about.

Nanny is at fault, she should be careful watching for pedestrians and keep focus of the cars in front of her. She damaged 2 cars.

When it comes to making deductions, it’s important to follow a fair process, and give the employee an opportunity to explain why the deductions shouldn’t be made. Deductions may also not exceed 25% of the nanny’s wages.

Naturally if there has been misconduct or negligence, the law does allow for disciplinary action can be taken against the employee or a civil claim for loss or damages to be claimed But this could be detrimental for a healthy work relationship, so you may end up firing or her quitting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

Stop assuming that she was following too closely. The car in front came to abrupt stop and rear ending can easily happen.

That means she was too close.

You’ve never been cut off and then had them slam on their brakes because they’re then too close?

You'd have to assume the car both changed lanes then slammed on the brakes. That isn't what OP described.

I'll also start braking as soon as someone starts cutting me off to give them space. You have to drive defensively.

I do. I’ve also had exactly one accident, when my fender scraped theirs after they cut me off and then slammed on their brakes… which is why I asked. I normally have plenty of room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

Stop assuming that she was following too closely. The car in front came to abrupt stop and rear ending can easily happen.

that's pretty much the definition of following too closely. Hence the 3 second rule, which nobody seems to follow.

The "3 second rule" is a cute idea but leaving that much space means someone's just going to cut in front of you and close that gap.

And at a corner, that would give about two cars the opportunity to turn. Traffic would be backed up for miles.

I had a simliar accident, but only tapped the bumper of the car in front of me. Happened because I was looking left for oncoming traffic when the car in front of me suddenly stopped mid-turn.

Easy mistake. Entirely my fault. And entirely your nanny's fault.

But if you like your nanny, you will bear the full cost.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher turned nanny and there is no way I'd allow a family to pay the deductible if I was at fault for an accident. Never. If it wasn't my fault that's a different story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

Stop assuming that she was following too closely. The car in front came to abrupt stop and rear ending can easily happen.

These types of accidents are always ruled against the second car.

She was following too close ANd going too fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

If someone told me this, I would immediately refuse to drive your children anymore. How condescending to someone taking better care of your children than you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cost of business. Yes, you're responsible. Tell her going forward, to leave more space between her and the car in front of her, so if a car stops short she has more space to stop without hitting them.

If someone told me this, I would immediately refuse to drive your children anymore. How condescending to someone taking better care of your children than you!

How do we know the nanny takes better care of the kids than the parents?