To call Northwestern middling is the definition of someone who’s obsessed with, “rankings crap.” |
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So what this will do will drive Ivy and other brand name schools admission rates down further. People will focus on having an Ivy name or something known to have a good name like a Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins, or Chicago.
What it will stop is the debates as to Chicago, Northwestern, Hopkins, Duke etc. are ranked higher than some Ivies. Is that justified? |
Yes but nobody knows these schools outside their AOJ (area of jurisdiction), except Hopkins. |
No one knows Hopkins either, and even if they do they don't particularly care about it for undergrad. |
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The rankings should be tier-based clusters rather than ordinal.
There's no difference in quality or prestige between Duke, Hopkins and Northwestern. The correct choice is going to be based on major and locational preference. That Duke is top 10 one year and the other two aren't, and vice versa the other years, is just stupid. Same for Penn, Columbia and Chicago. Or Dartmouth, Brown and Cornell. Or UCB, UCLA, Michigan, and UNC. Or Vanderbilt, Washington University, Notre Dame, Rice, CMU, Georgetown, or Emory. Or UCSB, UC Davis, UC San Diego, UC Irvine. Or Tufts, Boston College, Wake Forest, Rochester. |
actually a funny comment because it is true on many levels I think US News single handedly raised the reputation of a number of T25 non ivies Vanderbilt had a 50%+ acceptance rate back at the turn of the century as did USC. Ivies will always get the apps but Vandy, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Northeastern, and Wash U are included on many wish lists based solely on the ranking |
| Thrilled!!!! |
Here comes the deranged Northwestern hater again. We get it, your kid didn’t get into Northwestern. But this bizarre fixation really isn’t healthy for you or your kid. |
+1. Northwestern was an excellent school long before US News came around and deemed it so. |
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The flyover country colleges will suffer the most. Outside of these fake rankings, why would anyone bother freezing their butt off in a dying depressing region. A false sense of status and prestige is all places like Chicago, Northwestern, WashU, and Michigan have. Notre Dame is the one anomaly I suppose.
Meanwhile Georgetown, Vanderbilt, USC, Miami and NYU will remain hot because they’re full of rich kids and in thriving cities. |
Undergrad was generally a regional U for Great Lakes rich kids. Nothing special. |
On the contrary, they will always be here. It's just that real education will take place at schools ranked there, while clubbing will go on at the other ones. |
Lol. The gobs of rich and famous alumni from California and the Northeast would certainly disagree with you. A century’s worth of alumni, really. But hey, whatever feeds your obsessive anti-Midwest fixation, right? |
Lmao this could not more obviously be a parent from one of Georgetown/Vanderbilt/USC/MIAMI of all schools/NYU. So cringe. |