USNWR rankings coming to an end?

[Anonymous]

It seems USNWR rankings are slowly falling apart. About time!

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2023/01/18/harvard-medical-school-withdraws-us-news-rankings

[Anonymous]

The essay below has been linked in a few other threads, so you may have seen it already. If not, it's an interesting piece about the direction rankings ought to take once USNWR does fall apart.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/

[Anonymous]

Gosh, whatever will we talk about, then?

And how will strivers know where to apply?

[Anonymous]

No

[Anonymous]

Lol. Regrettably people are going to remain obsessed with rankings, and this one in particular.

[Anonymous]

Thankfully, no.

US News shares a great deal of information beyond the rankings which form the basis for reasonable comparison among hundreds of colleges and universities.

US News provides both objective & subjective information about schools. How one uses or misuses that information is an individual matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thankfully, no.

US News shares a great deal of information beyond the rankings which form the basis for reasonable comparison among hundreds of colleges and universities.

US News provides both objective & subjective information about schools. How one uses or misuses that information is an individual matter.

So it will become USNWR comparisons without ordinal rankings?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thankfully, no.

US News shares a great deal of information beyond the rankings which form the basis for reasonable comparison among hundreds of colleges and universities.

US News provides both objective & subjective information about schools. How one uses or misuses that information is an individual matter.

Most of that info is available from sources like College Navigator. The only data USNWR adds is their bogus reputation survey.

[Anonymous]

Note that only grad/professional schools (law and medical school rankings) have been impacted so far. The most important of the USNWR rankings, the undergrad/national rankings, have not been affected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The essay below has been linked in a few other threads, so you may have seen it already. If not, it's an interesting piece about the direction rankings ought to take once USNWR does fall apart.

https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/

Thank you. This is very helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thankfully, no.

US News shares a great deal of information beyond the rankings which form the basis for reasonable comparison among hundreds of colleges and universities.

US News provides both objective & subjective information about schools. How one uses or misuses that information is an individual matter.

Most of that info is available from sources like College Navigator. The only data USNWR adds is their bogus reputation survey.

I don't want to navigate 3000 schools

[Anonymous]

In a perverse way, this could make the USNews rankings more relevant. They make literally all their $$$ from these various rankings, so they will not allow their cash cow to die.

Maybe they will now start performing true independent research vs. this nonsense of asking college Deans to rank the perceived strength of a school that they know nothing about.

While everyone claims to hate the various rankings, the Top 25 schools are fairly consistently the same across USNews, WSJ, Forbes, etc., with their rank within the Top 25 different based on the publication.

Only rankings based entirely on demographic mobility or pure ROI produce significantly different rankings. The pure ROI rankings are always heavily weighted to schools like Olin or Colorado School of Mines where essentially you can only get a STEM degree.

[Anonymous]

I like Niche

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thankfully, no.

US News shares a great deal of information beyond the rankings which form the basis for reasonable comparison among hundreds of colleges and universities.

US News provides both objective & subjective information about schools. How one uses or misuses that information is an individual matter.

Most of that info is available from sources like College Navigator. The only data USNWR adds is their bogus reputation survey.

I don't want to navigate 3000 schools

You don't have to navigate 3000 schools. College Navigator has a lot of filters -- figure by geography, a few majors of interest, preferred setting (rural, suburban, city), size, an acceptance range, minimum SAT scores and you pretty quickly can have a focused list to look at more closely. I do wish they would add a filter for retention and graduation rates because those were important filters in our initial searches but you can export a list and that will have those fields to sort by.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thankfully, no.

US News shares a great deal of information beyond the rankings which form the basis for reasonable comparison among hundreds of colleges and universities.

US News provides both objective & subjective information about schools. How one uses or misuses that information is an individual matter.

Most of that info is available from sources like College Navigator. The only data USNWR adds is their bogus reputation survey.

I don't want to navigate 3000 schools

You don't have to navigate 3000 schools. College Navigator has a lot of filters -- figure by geography, a few majors of interest, preferred setting (rural, suburban, city), size, an acceptance range, minimum SAT scores and you pretty quickly can have a focused list to look at more closely. I do wish they would add a filter for retention and graduation rates because those were important filters in our initial searches but you can export a list and that will have those fields to sort by.

This does mean you have to think about what is important to you vs. letting USNWR digest the data and tell you what they think is best based on their weighting decisions.