is joel osteen a false preacher?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t all preachers?

You think all preachers and pastors are false? Really? Why?

Why? You are kidding right. Today alone 6 pastors accross the US arrested for child abuse, rape, child porn, grooming, etc... Yes every day check the news.

The catholic church just had another priest arrested in SC for child abuse.

Wake up already this is not hard at this point.

Hofstra University researcher Charol Shakeshaft looked into the problem, and the first thing that came to her mind when Education Week reported on the study were the daily headlines about the Catholic Church.

"[T]hink the Catholic Church has a problem?" she said. "The physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."

No, they didn't. That treatment was reserved for the Catholic Church, while the greater problem in the schools was ignored altogether.

As the National Catholic Register's reporter Wayne Laugesen points out, the federal report said 422,000 California public-school students would be victims before graduation — a number that dwarfs the state's entire Catholic-school enrollment of 143,000.

Yet, during the first half of 2002, the 61 largest newspapers in California ran nearly 2,000 stories about sexual abuse in Catholic institutions, mostly concerning past allegations. During the same period, those newspapers ran four stories about the federal government's discovery of the much larger — and ongoing — abuse scandal in public schools.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/has-media-ignored-sex-abuse-in-school/

Sex abuse by teachers and coaches and other educational professionals in public schools happens in greater frequency than any church.

Lol. You last line is real comforting…

How is this subject “lol” worthy?

I am sorry. You are right. The subject isn’t but your last line was.

Ah, children being raped and abused at school and church makes you laugh out loud. You sound disturbed.

[Anonymous]

op, you just posted this thread, have you disappeared? You think Osteen is a Biblical pastor? Why won’t you explain why you think that?

[Anonymous]

A troll thread, explained by me:

op: Is Joel Osteen bad man? Y tho? I fink he gud!

Everyone: He sucks.

op: Prosperity Gospel? Wat dat? Explain?

Everyone: It sucks.

Catholic hating, religion hating troll: ALL PRIESTS AND PASTORS RAPE KIDS! 750,000 kids per day are raped by priests!! (no link given to any reputable statistics)

op: disappears


(I’ve ignored the troll lol’ing at child sex abuse on the thread. They seriously need professional help.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain if they think Joel Osteen is a false preacher or not? I think he teaches the bible from what I've seen but I know a lot of people don't like him for whatever reason.

Op, you must watch Osteen on tv. You say you think he teaches from the Bible. What do you recommend or like about his preaching?

OP here. I said, "I think he teaches the bible from what I've seen." But I haven't seen much of his shows and definitely not nearly enough to "recommend" or "like" his teachings. I'm just curious about wether others feel he is false profit or not or if he's even worth following or watching.

[Anonymous]

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I think he sucks.

This is a real Evangelist

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1hYZR1xCY

Never heard of this guy at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes he is a powerful false prophet. His basic theology is Protestant but …

More often than not, Osteen sounds like an inspirational life-coach, instead of a herald of the gospel. He often preaches about how people can improve their lives, be prosperous, and experience happiness. Noticeably absent in Osteen’s optimistic message is any mention of sin or repentance. The atonement of Christ provides us with healing and the abundant life, according to Osteen, but apparently receiving forgiveness from a holy God is not necessary.

Overarching all that Joel and Victoria Osteen teach is the prosperity gospel: God’s will is that we be blessed with material things, a view that contradicts 1 Timothy 6:6. As the Lakewood Church’s website says, “To be successful in your walk with God, commit to honor God with your finances. When you commit to give the Lord the first 10% of your income, God promises He will pour out blessings you cannot contain. Tithing is the first key to financial prosperity.” Lakewood’s website then quotes the favorite proof-text for this teaching, Malachi 3:10. It is a prime example of taking Old Covenant promises to Israel out of context to apply them to New Covenant believers.

Another problem in Osteen’s message is his promotion of name-it-claim-it or word-faith theology: “We have to conceive it on the inside before we’re ever going to receive it on the outside,” Osteen writes. “If you don’t think you can have something good, then you never will. The barrier is in your mind. . . . Your own wrong thinking can keep you from God’s best. . . . To experience [God’s] immeasurable favor, you must rid yourself of that small-minded thinking and start expecting God’s blessings, start anticipating promotion and supernatural increase. You must conceive it in your heart before you can receive it. In other words, you must make increase in your own thinking, then God will bring those things to pass” (from Your Best Life Now, chapter 1). There is nothing biblical about such teaching. There is no power inherent in positive thinking, and we do not create our own realities. God is not our servant, standing by and waiting for us to fire up our imaginations so He can lavish us with material goods. Jesus told His followers to “give up everything you have” (Luke 14:33), not to seek to get more.


https://www.gotquestions.org/Joel-Osteen.html


Yes he is a false prophet plugging the prosperity gospel which runs counter to biblical teachings.

The prosperity gospel: Why Joel Osteen believes that prayer can make you rich
The long, strange history of a quintessentially American theology.

Joel Osteen and his Lakewood Church, one of the largest megachurches in the country.

The prosperity gospel has its roots in an American occult tradition called New Thought

Today’s prosperity gospel was also shaped by pro-capitalist and Pentecostal thought traditions

Many of the evangelical leaders that surrounded Trump are proponents of the prosperity gospel.



https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/identities/2017/9/1/15951874/prosperity-gospel-explained-why-joel-osteen-believes-prayer-can-make-you-rich-trump

Thank you this is very thorough and what I was looking for! Thank you for taking the time to post this!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain if they think Joel Osteen is a false preacher or not? I think he teaches the bible from what I've seen but I know a lot of people don't like him for whatever reason.

Op, you must watch Osteen on tv. You say you think he teaches from the Bible. What do you recommend or like about his preaching?

OP here. I said, "I think he teaches the bible from what I've seen." But I haven't seen much of his shows and definitely not nearly enough to "recommend" or "like" his teachings. I'm just curious about wether others feel he is false profit or not or if he's even worth following or watching.

He’s a false prophet who makes false profits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“In numerous interviews and writings, Osteen has failed to proclaim that Jesus is the only way to heaven. He has repeatedly refused to agree with the teachings of the Bible that certain behaviors are sinful. This is not a new convert being interviewed; it’s the leader of a church of tens of thousands. Osteen can’t bring himself to support fundamental doctrines of the faith he claims to preach. His words communicate relativism and demonstrate a profoundly poor understanding of the Bible.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/Joel-Osteen.html

pp, thanks for linking this. I avoid everything Osteen. It’s good to know alot of people have his number.

EXCELLENT points and great link: "Osteen’s teaching is rooted in Pentecostalism" and that right there is something to look at as well.

[Anonymous]

https://www.gotquestions.org/

Anyone seriously searching for answers regarding Christianity can search at this website. It’s legit.

“Do you have a question about God, Jesus, the Bible, or theology? Do you need help understanding a Bible verse or passage? Are there any spiritual issues in your life for which you need advice or counsel?“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joel Osteen is worth how much?
Private planes.
Expensive cars.

Never ever does he help anyone but himself.

OP how is this a ?
seriously this man has zero redeeming qualities he is a criminal.

I wasn't asking about his money I was asking about his teachings. You seem very, very irrationally angry for no reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Joel Osteen is worth how much?
Private planes.
Expensive cars.

Never ever does he help anyone but himself.

OP how is this a ?
seriously this man has zero redeeming qualities he is a criminal.

I really would like op to explain what she enjoys or finds admirable about watching Osteen.

OP here, exactly WHERE did I say I "enjoy" watching him or how I find him "admirable" Where, I'll wait....

[Anonymous]

OP asked is Osteen legit.

The answer unequivocally is no. He is the utmost pos preying on the stupid.

As for child abuse in the Church, it is alive and well we all know this. There is no denying this.

You want to risk your kids for "morality" LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“In numerous interviews and writings, Osteen has failed to proclaim that Jesus is the only way to heaven. He has repeatedly refused to agree with the teachings of the Bible that certain behaviors are sinful. This is not a new convert being interviewed; it’s the leader of a church of tens of thousands. Osteen can’t bring himself to support fundamental doctrines of the faith he claims to preach. His words communicate relativism and demonstrate a profoundly poor understanding of the Bible.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/Joel-Osteen.html

pp, thanks for linking this. I avoid everything Osteen. It’s good to know alot of people have his number.

EXCELLENT points and great link: "Osteen’s teaching is rooted in Pentecostalism" and that right there is something to look at as well.

That’s not concerning, pentecostalism is just a way some people worship. What’s concerning is Osteen has no theology degree and uses the pulpit for his own enrichment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.gotquestions.org/

Anyone seriously searching for answers regarding Christianity can search at this website. It’s legit.

“Do you have a question about God, Jesus, the Bible, or theology? Do you need help understanding a Bible verse or passage? Are there any spiritual issues in your life for which you need advice or counsel?“

Thank you I've never seen this website but just tried it and searched for Joel on there and read that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP asked is Osteen legit.

The answer unequivocally is no. He is the utmost pos preying on the stupid.

As for child abuse in the Church, it is alive and well we all know this. There is no denying this.

You want to risk your kids for "morality" LOL

Mothers were the number one perpetrators of child maltreatment, followed by fathers, mother and father, and mother and nonparent(s).

https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/can/people/

Perpetrators of child abuse or neglect are most often the child's own parents. According to NCANDS, in 2005, 79.4 percent of perpetrators were parents and 6.8 percent were other relatives.

https://calm4kids.org/about-us/facts-stats/

Children living without either parent (foster children) are 10 times more likely to be sexually abused than children that live with both biological parents. Children who live with a single parent that has a live-in partner are at the highest risk: they are 20 times more likely to be victims of child sexual abuse than children living with both biological parents (Sedlack, et. al., 2010).

https://cachouston.org/prevention/child-sexual-abuse-facts/