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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.

You actually think people will admit of Blair envy? LOL
Your post screams of envy.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.


People are "obsessed" with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program, not with attending Blair in general.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.


Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS for highly gifted kids in STEM. Not everyone has highly gifted kids and not all students want to do STEM. The Blair envy is a made up idea that Blair parents on DCUM like to throw around to make them feel superior even when their own kids aren't even in the program.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.


People are "obsessed" with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program, not with attending Blair in general.

The mental gymnastics is strong here. Where else would those obsessed with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program attend??????
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.


People are "obsessed" with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program, not with attending Blair in general.

The mental gymnastics is strong here. Where else would those obsessed with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program attend??????


Genuine question. Where? I would not think there would be a specific school. Anyone can apply to the magnet program.
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I'd expect even more change once they have to shift BCC's boundary for Woodward.


Rock on, obsessed DCUM poster who keeps insisting this is going to happen even though there is no plan to do that.

I find it funny how triggered this suggestion makes people. Regardless whether or not there is a plan now, it is inevitable and will probably be part of Phase 2 for Woodward.

In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.

The report will not be used for any future boundary studies, because those studies will be done according to MCPS policy. The objective of the report was to look at boundaries across the whole county with an eye towards potential district-wide boundary changes that would address two goals: (i) alleviate overcrowding across neighboring boundaries and (ii) address racial disparities across adjoining boundaries.


I duly note these are the neighborhood where liberal county leaders have homes - and have created ad hoc private schools via magnet programs in public schools. All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.


People are "obsessed" with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program, not with attending Blair in general.

The mental gymnastics is strong here. Where else would those obsessed with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program attend??????


Genuine question. Where? I would not think there would be a specific school. Anyone can apply to the magnet program.


No, not at Blair. If you're zoned for upcounty high schools, your potential SMACS magnet program is at Poolesville, not Blair.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

The report compared demographics of ES boundaries against adjacent ES boundaries. It found large disparities for TPES and PBES because both schools have a significant number of non-FARMS white students while bordering boundaries had significantly fewer. The outcome is a recommendation to affect a boundary change to facilitate better balancing of diversity between TPES/PBES and neighboring schools.


Please provide a citation from either the interim or final boundary analysis report to support your claims. I do not see where it says what you say above about Takoma Park schools. In fact, in the interim report, on page 225, there is a section on this topic which specifically names several different schools, none of which are in Takoma Park:

"Which Schools Are Most Socio-economically Dissimilar from their Nearest Schools?

Aside from Sligo Creek ES, the other elementary schools with the highest socioeconomic dissimilarity to their three nearest schools include Laytonsville ES (Damascus Cluster), Forest Knolls ES (Downcounty Consortium), Kemp Mill ES (Downcounty Consortium), and Strawberry Knoll ES (Gaithersburg cluster). Of these top five most dissimilar schools, three are a part of the Downcounty Consortium.

The most socio-economically dissimilar middle schools in the district from their nearest three schools are Neelsville MS (Clarksburg cluster), Kingsview MS (Northwest HS), Farquhar MS (Sherwood HS / Northeast Consortium), Hallie Wells MS (Clarksbug and Damascus HS), and Rosa M. Parks MS (Sherwood HS/Northeast Consortium).

The most socio-economically dissimilar high schools from their three nearest high schools are Sherwood HS, Poolesville HS, Damascus HS, Whitman HS, and Gaithersburg HS."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/publicinfo/Boundary_Analysis/interim-report/02c_Diversity.pdf

Within the DCC, you can clearly see Takoma Park ES has extremely different demographics from other adjacent ESs.

And across Cluster Boundaries, you can clearly see both Garrett Park and Kensington, who have significantly different demographics from the adjacent ES in the DCC.

But we don’t need the report to tell us what is obvious. Kensington goes mostly to BCC and Garrett Park goes to WJ to the west instead of going to more racially and socio-economically diverse schools to the east. And Takoma Park is the most white and affluent area within the DCC/Blair.

The report outcome is supposed to be used to reduce these discrepancies among adjacent boundaries.



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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

The report compared demographics of ES boundaries against adjacent ES boundaries. It found large disparities for TPES and PBES because both schools have a significant number of non-FARMS white students while bordering boundaries had significantly fewer. The outcome is a recommendation to affect a boundary change to facilitate better balancing of diversity between TPES/PBES and neighboring schools.


Please provide a citation from either the interim or final boundary analysis report to support your claims. I do not see where it says what you say above about Takoma Park schools. In fact, in the interim report, on page 225, there is a section on this topic which specifically names several different schools, none of which are in Takoma Park:

"Which Schools Are Most Socio-economically Dissimilar from their Nearest Schools?

Aside from Sligo Creek ES, the other elementary schools with the highest socioeconomic dissimilarity to their three nearest schools include Laytonsville ES (Damascus Cluster), Forest Knolls ES (Downcounty Consortium), Kemp Mill ES (Downcounty Consortium), and Strawberry Knoll ES (Gaithersburg cluster). Of these top five most dissimilar schools, three are a part of the Downcounty Consortium.

The most socio-economically dissimilar middle schools in the district from their nearest three schools are Neelsville MS (Clarksburg cluster), Kingsview MS (Northwest HS), Farquhar MS (Sherwood HS / Northeast Consortium), Hallie Wells MS (Clarksbug and Damascus HS), and Rosa M. Parks MS (Sherwood HS/Northeast Consortium).

The most socio-economically dissimilar high schools from their three nearest high schools are Sherwood HS, Poolesville HS, Damascus HS, Whitman HS, and Gaithersburg HS."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/publicinfo/Boundary_Analysis/interim-report/02c_Diversity.pdf

Within the DCC, you can clearly see Takoma Park ES has extremely different demographics from other adjacent ESs.

And across Cluster Boundaries, you can clearly see both Garrett Park and Kensington, who have significantly different demographics from the adjacent ES in the DCC.

But we don’t need the report to tell us what is obvious. Kensington goes mostly to BCC and Garrett Park goes to WJ to the west instead of going to more racially and socio-economically diverse schools to the east. And Takoma Park is the most white and affluent area within the DCC/Blair.

The report outcome is supposed to be used to reduce these discrepancies among adjacent boundaries.





The first image shows Sligo Creek and Joann Leleck in the darker orange and red. Sligo Creek's numbers are skewed by the French Immersion program.
TPES/PBES is in yellow, the same as neighboring ESS.

No, Kensington does not "mostly" go to BCC.

Garrett Park is likely going to be reassigned to Woodward when it opens.
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

It stems from Blair envy which is a common malady in some quarters.


Blair Envy isn't a thing, it is literally the cheapest school zone to buy in. Being the least undesirable in the DCC doesn't mean it isn't still seen as a consortium school by everybody else.

Right...because Takoma Park is so cheap, Downtown SS and close-in areas are so cheap.
Your envy is definitely showing.


I am a longtime Silver Spring resident, and this whole "envy" thing is just stupid. There is obviously a wide range of real estate in neighborhoods zoned for Blair, from the most expensive parts of TKPK to the very affordable parts along the PG county border.

The Blair envy is real among the W folks. Blair accomplishments and accolades are what they envisioned for their schools when they overpaid to segregate themselves.




Upcounty resident here. Goodness guys. I literally don't know anyone who is envious of someone living in the Blair cluster. I know people want their kid to be in the magnet program but really, it's with ANY magnet. It can be RM or Poolesville too.

My Goodness, read what the poster said. It's not about living in the Blair cluster.
You must be new here. RM or Poolesville don't trigger the W parents as much as Blair does, not even close.


I've been here for a long time. I have never heard of Blair envy outside of DCUM, especially from families who attend a W. They're already happy where they are. The Blair accomplishments and accolades are a result of the students who got accepted to the magnet program. The same with the accolades and accomplishments of RM and Poolesville. Everyone knows this.


Perhaps, but you read about it here regularly. Some parents are just obsessed with ensuring their children attend Blair since it provides the best education available in MCPS.


People are "obsessed" with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program, not with attending Blair in general.

The mental gymnastics is strong here. Where else would those obsessed with getting a spot in the Blair magnet program attend??????


No clude but my non-magnet Blair student ended up taking 8 of the 16 manget classes while there in addition to another 8 APs. In many ways I felt this was better than being in the magnet since they could focus on their interests and didn't have that silly extra period.
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The problem with these studies is they're couched in this "same cluster" which is just a way to manipulate the outcome by segregating low-income areas. We need to take a broader look and consider changing cluster boundaries.
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The report outcome is supposed to be used to reduce these discrepancies among adjacent boundaries.





The problem with these studies is they're couched in this "same cluster" which is just a way to manipulate the outcome by segregating low-income areas. We need to take a broader look and consider changing cluster boundaries.


Well, those images were taken from one section of the interim report titled The Effects of Cluster Boundaries. The final report states that "cluster boundaries are an impediment to addressing capacity challenges, especially in the most overcrowded schools." And "cluster boundaries may contribute to racial and socio-economic isolation."
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In any event, back to the topic, the report included a number of inconvenient facts about specific communities that both had the largest disparities and also have long been given exceptional treatment. These are the obvious neighborhoods of Garrett Park, Kensington and Takoma Park. The result is that after the report was released, the BOE announced that they will not be taking up any of the recommendations and decided to make it disappear.


I'm confused about the inclusion of Takoma Park on this list. TPES/PBES/TPMS are all walkable for large swathes of the community. Blair is the nearest HS, including for kids at the far reach of Takoma Park that couldn't necessarily walk to the ES or MS. What part of the Takoma Park school assignment do you find "exceptional treatment?"

The report compared demographics of ES boundaries against adjacent ES boundaries. It found large disparities for TPES and PBES because both schools have a significant number of non-FARMS white students while bordering boundaries had significantly fewer. The outcome is a recommendation to affect a boundary change to facilitate better balancing of diversity between TPES/PBES and neighboring schools.


Please provide a citation from either the interim or final boundary analysis report to support your claims. I do not see where it says what you say above about Takoma Park schools. In fact, in the interim report, on page 225, there is a section on this topic which specifically names several different schools, none of which are in Takoma Park:

"Which Schools Are Most Socio-economically Dissimilar from their Nearest Schools?

Aside from Sligo Creek ES, the other elementary schools with the highest socioeconomic dissimilarity to their three nearest schools include Laytonsville ES (Damascus Cluster), Forest Knolls ES (Downcounty Consortium), Kemp Mill ES (Downcounty Consortium), and Strawberry Knoll ES (Gaithersburg cluster). Of these top five most dissimilar schools, three are a part of the Downcounty Consortium.

The most socio-economically dissimilar middle schools in the district from their nearest three schools are Neelsville MS (Clarksburg cluster), Kingsview MS (Northwest HS), Farquhar MS (Sherwood HS / Northeast Consortium), Hallie Wells MS (Clarksbug and Damascus HS), and Rosa M. Parks MS (Sherwood HS/Northeast Consortium).

The most socio-economically dissimilar high schools from their three nearest high schools are Sherwood HS, Poolesville HS, Damascus HS, Whitman HS, and Gaithersburg HS."

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/publicinfo/Boundary_Analysis/interim-report/02c_Diversity.pdf

Within the DCC, you can clearly see Takoma Park ES has extremely different demographics from other adjacent ESs.

And across Cluster Boundaries, you can clearly see both Garrett Park and Kensington, who have significantly different demographics from the adjacent ES in the DCC.

But we don’t need the report to tell us what is obvious. Kensington goes mostly to BCC and Garrett Park goes to WJ to the west instead of going to more racially and socio-economically diverse schools to the east. And Takoma Park is the most white and affluent area within the DCC/Blair.

The report outcome is supposed to be used to reduce these discrepancies among adjacent boundaries.





The first image shows Sligo Creek and Joann Leleck in the darker orange and red. Sligo Creek's numbers are skewed by the French Immersion program.
TPES/PBES is in yellow, the same as neighboring ESS.

No, Kensington does not "mostly" go to BCC.

Garrett Park is likely going to be reassigned to Woodward when it opens.


+1 The chart does not show what PP is claiming that it shows. The outlier in the Blair cluster isn't TPES/PBES, it is Sligo Creek. Both TPES/PBES is more like Highland View and ESS than it is like Sligo Creek ES, demographically. I have no particular attachment to Takoma Park, but I do have attachment to people using data responsibly, and PP is making claims that are not held up by the data.
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