picture and tweet by ANC reps in Cleveland Park

[Anonymous]

Slightly off-topic, but how is the vacuum repair store still open/profitable? Has anyone gotten a vacuum or sewing machine repaired in the last 20 years?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though?

They will move on once the Bike lanes on CT ave idea is dropped.

And that's another reason to fight them.

Except they are not being dropped. There is no elected official who is opposed to them, they have been funded, they are going in. Fighting it at this late date, particularly after an election which was a litmus up and down the avenue and for the council seat, is being divisive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Slightly off-topic, but how is the vacuum repair store still open/profitable? Has anyone gotten a vacuum or sewing machine repaired in the last 20 years?

I saw someone get on a bus with a vaccum cleaner from one of the bust stops in Cleveland Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though?

They will move on once the Bike lanes on CT ave idea is dropped.

And that's another reason to fight them.

Except they are not being dropped. There is no elected official who is opposed to them, they have been funded, they are going in. Fighting it at this late date, particularly after an election which was a litmus up and down the avenue and for the council seat, is being divisive.

"And that's another reason to fight them." Them = People against bike lanes. That's what I was implying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Slightly off-topic, but how is the vacuum repair store still open/profitable? Has anyone gotten a vacuum or sewing machine repaired in the last 20 years?

Yes, people do get these things repaired and sell parts for DIY repairs. Expensive items are not intended to be disposable because a component is broken. Many of these shops also sell Miele or other brands not found at Target.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

So you all want to keep beating a dead horse after it has turned to glue? It is almost as bad as Trump continuing to whine about the 2020 election. Seriously, it is time to move on. If you don't want to, that is your problem, but why waste the ANC time complaining about it when the decision has been made, the project funded and the city and ANC moving on to other issues?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

They are. The overhwelming majority WANT the bike lanes. Get it? YOU are the MINORITY and you want to clog up everyone else's mail box with BS because YOU can't let it go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

No, you are the one being contemptuous by continuing to complain about it. The issue has been debated for 3 years. It has endured 2 election cycles. It has the support of the Mayor, the outgoing Councilmember, the incoming Councilmember and all of the ANCs in the affected area, with near unanimity. It is over and yet...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

but not the immaturity of the opponents who want to continue to litigate it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

They are. The overhwelming majority WANT the bike lanes. Get it? YOU are the MINORITY and you want to clog up everyone else's mail box with BS because YOU can't let it go.

The issue is not about bike lanes anymore. It’s about immature and offensive behavior followed by attempts to prevent their neighbors from providing them direct feedback about it. It’s pretty sad when elected officials are so petty as to abuse power to prevent public accountability. Particularly when all they need to do is listen to their neighbors and provide an unconditional. But it seems like acting like adults is too hard for these people so they want to hide behind Roberts Rules of Order. How pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone post the link to the tweet, please!

It was deleted.

At this point, all five of them have publicly apologized. Of course, many don't view that as enough and will never do so. Indeed, nothing, not even voluntarily being driven over by a late model BMW on Connecticut Ave will be enough. Their profanity was the crime of the century and they shall be deprived of grace and forgiveness for their insolence.

Just because you have apologized should not insulate you from criticism of your behavior.

At what point can people move on, though? Drunkenly flicking off a silly* sign on the biggest night of their lives isn't exactly the Trumpish malfeasance some want it to be. They did something bad. They got caught. They apologized. The argument that they only apologized because they were caught is absurdly circular. People only apologize when they are called out on their actions.

Should they take some heat? Absolutely. Should everything they do from hereon (in an elected unpaid role) be tainted? Nope.


* the bike lanes are coming, regardless of this ANC or any other Ward 3 ANC. Spending money to defeat city hall on a minor something city hall wants to do is futile.

Here’s the thing that you don’t really understand which I think underlies a lot of the problems being presented here. You don’t get to decide when “people move on”, the residents of CP and the constituents of these commissioners get to decide that for themselves. By trying to deny their constituents a forum to present their dissatisfaction with immature and offensive behavior, it demonstrates also a lack of respect for the people of their community. Commissioners should represent their communities. However in this case it seems that they hold contempt for their neighbors in very significant ways. To be honest with you, this whole episode is pretty sad and continues to reflect on the profound immaturity of these commissioners such that their fitness to serve is in question. If they cannot even face up to their neighbors in an open forum and take their medicine, then they should not be an elected representative of anyone because that accountability is part of the job.

but not the immaturity of the opponents who want to continue to litigate it?

Are elected officials not allowed expected to be held to higher standards?

[Anonymous]

No one is defending what took place in that picture, but at some point, you have to move on. You can run for the seat in two years if you are still that bitter about it. The ANC are volunteer positions that take a lot of time. In most cases, someone runs because no one else will. Why don't you step up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I don’t think we were at the same meeting. At every turn, MacWood showed grace and class, and continued to lend her expertise. In contrast, Beau Finley, the chair, withdrew the resolutions honoring MacWood for her 22 years of service to the community and another retiring commissioner’s 16 years of service in a petty, retaliatory fit of pique when his ruling about the commissioner behavior resolution was overturned. When another commissioner reintroduced the resolutions honoring the service, the chair abruptly turned off Zoom, removing everyone from the meeting. Eventually the other commissioners returned to Zoom and reconvened, but Finley and Pagatts did not. It’s not about bike lanes or the configuration of Connecticut Avenue, but about the temperament and ethics of those who are serving and whether we can have confidence in their decision making. Commissioner Siddiqui should be given credit for showing back up and continuing the meeting. He has potential if he can detach himself from some of those around him.

Isn't that up to the voters to decide?

Yes, which is why it's very important to have everything on record so it's not swept under the rug for the next election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is defending what took place in that picture, but at some point, you have to move on. You can run for the seat in two years if you are still that bitter about it. The ANC are volunteer positions that take a lot of time. In most cases, someone runs because no one else will. Why don't you step up?

I love it. Block avenues of accountability and then tell people to “move on”. This is not serious.