colleges outside top 25 (and not a nescac) that place well in finance..

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I worked on Wall Street at a lot of places. I did 30 years. A lot of luck and being really smart and a being a rainmaker is important on top of the school

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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

Business professor and Goldman Sachs alum here. I have sent Ph.D. students to become professors at Colgate, University of South Carolina, and have a former colleague at Lehigh. I was first-generation college and didn't even know what an investment banker or engineer was at age 17. I can't relate to a teenager who is "singularly focused" on such a narrow field.

Typically, DCUM fails to discuss the quality of education in finance, business, or other majors. Furthermore, DCUM thinks a finance offer at age 22 guarantees a successful career and happy life. As long as your high school nincompoop gets into a school with the right "connections", your helicopter parenting is over, and you can retire.

Anonymous wrote:My nephew just graduated from Lehigh with a job in finance. He was a business/computer sci major and had great internships and several offers on Wall st.

Now you are just spoiling the DCUM narrative! Your nephew went to a school known for engineering. Then he learned about computers in addition to business. In other words, he acquired skills. He could be self-sufficient and work with data and software tools. Good for him and his employer!

The DCUM attitude is immature and short-sighted. You expect a kid to be singularly focused for 21 years. How about letting the kid learn what he likes? How about urging the kid to learn versatile math and computer skills? Then the kid can do finance, business, science, engineering, or medicine. If the kid becomes smart and skilled, then he can get a top one-year masters in the field of his choice. Is it so terrible to start a career at age 23 instead of 22.?

Here is a thought. Get CLEP and AP credit, and take an extra course each semester, or online during winter/summer breaks. Then you can graduate in 3 years instead of 4. DCUM never discusses saving a year of college, but everybody complains when I suggest getting a one-year masters degree after becoming more educated and mature about the career field. The focus on schools with "connections" and "placement" is why I suspect y'all are raising a bunch of incompetent nincompoops who can't get a good education or job on their own merits.

Agree. So many parents on here obsessed with the fields they perceive as lucrative. No imagination and no faith in their kids. Let your kids figure it out! Have faith that you have raised them to do that.

I’ve worked with your kids in finance cubicle-land. They are h happy because they were pushed into a field they do not enjoy. A recipe for burn out and unhappiness, but I guess if they find your retirement and they have a brag worthy job, you are happy at least.

The value of working at GS or McK isn’t to come up the ranks in those fields — it’s the exit opportunities to work in something you want to do but also get paid decently for it.

It’s why you see GS and McK alums pepper interesting fields/jobs that also happen to pay decent.

But that doesn’t help the person that wants to be a musician or a florist.

DCUM is filled with ruthless, aggressive Tracy Flicks who force their kids to adopt their striver tendencies. I bet 90% of the parents on this board would never approve of their kid becoming a musician or florist.

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my kid at a top nescac and sooo many kids going the data or consulting routes as opposed to IB. The consulting lifestyle or learning state of the art AI, big data, etc. holds a lot more appeal than IB drudgery. Pay not that much different first couple years , then they all go to b school anyway. Mind as well learn a useful skill and enjoy urself in early 20s. Data internship offers paying $90k annualized for 10 week gig. Not bad for a 20 yr old with another year of school left..

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the poster above about the small NE schools. I went to Colgate and a lot of my friend group went on to banking.

+1. When I was a banker, there were several kids from New England SLACs on my team.

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Anonymous wrote:probably the schools with strong alumni support on wall street, but like to hear thoughts on what people see. Bucknell, W&L, Kelly, BC, ‘Nova? Assume NYU is top 25

They will fill up the 'back office' and if lucky, 'middle office'.

Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

Been a while since my Wall Street days, but Trinity seemed to have a very strong Wall Street network. Not sure if that is true anymore.

Trinity is a NESCAC.

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Anonymous wrote:probably the schools with strong alumni support on wall street, but like to hear thoughts on what people see. Bucknell, W&L, Kelly, BC, ‘Nova? Assume NYU is top 25

They will fill up the 'back office' and if lucky, 'middle office'.

Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

"Front office' in Utah.

They aren't "real" targets but Bucknell and Lehigh do send kids to front office roles every year.

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Columbia

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Boston College, UNC
Villanova, Northeatern, Indiana, Texas

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Anonymous wrote:I worked on Wall Street at a lot of places. I did 30 years. A lot of luck and being really smart and a being a rainmaker is important on top of the school

We're talking about 22-year-olds trying to break into the industry here, telling someone to "be a rainmaker" is a pretty useless comment.

What matters for 17- to 22-year-old kids interested in finance is college OCR, since that's generally the only way you can break into the industry (the post-MBA path is far more limited/limiting).

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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

Business professor and Goldman Sachs alum here. I have sent Ph.D. students to become professors at Colgate, University of South Carolina, and have a former colleague at Lehigh. I was first-generation college and didn't even know what an investment banker or engineer was at age 17. I can't relate to a teenager who is "singularly focused" on such a narrow field.

Typically, DCUM fails to discuss the quality of education in finance, business, or other majors. Furthermore, DCUM thinks a finance offer at age 22 guarantees a successful career and happy life. As long as your high school nincompoop gets into a school with the right "connections", your helicopter parenting is over, and you can retire.

Anonymous wrote:My nephew just graduated from Lehigh with a job in finance. He was a business/computer sci major and had great internships and several offers on Wall st.

Now you are just spoiling the DCUM narrative! Your nephew went to a school known for engineering. Then he learned about computers in addition to business. In other words, he acquired skills. He could be self-sufficient and work with data and software tools. Good for him and his employer!

The DCUM attitude is immature and short-sighted. You expect a kid to be singularly focused for 21 years. How about letting the kid learn what he likes? How about urging the kid to learn versatile math and computer skills? Then the kid can do finance, business, science, engineering, or medicine. If the kid becomes smart and skilled, then he can get a top one-year masters in the field of his choice. Is it so terrible to start a career at age 23 instead of 22.?

Here is a thought. Get CLEP and AP credit, and take an extra course each semester, or online during winter/summer breaks. Then you can graduate in 3 years instead of 4. DCUM never discusses saving a year of college, but everybody complains when I suggest getting a one-year masters degree after becoming more educated and mature about the career field. The focus on schools with "connections" and "placement" is why I suspect y'all are raising a bunch of incompetent nincompoops who can't get a good education or job on their own merits.

Agree. So many parents on here obsessed with the fields they perceive as lucrative. No imagination and no faith in their kids. Let your kids figure it out! Have faith that you have raised them to do that.

I’ve worked with your kids in finance cubicle-land. They are h happy because they were pushed into a field they do not enjoy. A recipe for burn out and unhappiness, but I guess if they find your retirement and they have a brag worthy job, you are happy at least.

The value of working at GS or McK isn’t to come up the ranks in those fields — it’s the exit opportunities to work in something you want to do but also get paid decently for it.

It’s why you see GS and McK alums pepper interesting fields/jobs that also happen to pay decent.

But that doesn’t help the person that wants to be a musician or a florist.

(shrug) You don't have to go to college at all to do that.

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UNC, UT Austin, Tufts, BC

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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

Business professor and Goldman Sachs alum here. I have sent Ph.D. students to become professors at Colgate, University of South Carolina, and have a former colleague at Lehigh. I was first-generation college and didn't even know what an investment banker or engineer was at age 17. I can't relate to a teenager who is "singularly focused" on such a narrow field.

Typically, DCUM fails to discuss the quality of education in finance, business, or other majors.

What schools provide the highest quality of education in business and finance? Are they "the usual suspects" (highly selective high prestige schools) or are there some "hidden gems" among the finance/business education schools?

[Anonymous]

Go the banks’ sites and see where they’re doing OCI. It’s no secret. But as someone said, non-T25 is going to be regional/ back office.

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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

Business professor and Goldman Sachs alum here. I have sent Ph.D. students to become professors at Colgate, University of South Carolina, and have a former colleague at Lehigh. I was first-generation college and didn't even know what an investment banker or engineer was at age 17. I can't relate to a teenager who is "singularly focused" on such a narrow field.

Typically, DCUM fails to discuss the quality of education in finance, business, or other majors.

What schools provide the highest quality of education in business and finance? Are they "the usual suspects" (highly selective high prestige schools) or are there some "hidden gems" among the finance/business education schools?

Who cares about the "highest quality of education"? People major in business to get good jobs, not to "learn" about business. The most coveted positions generally require very little specific training.

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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell and Lehigh grads with high gpa’s get front office jobs if they target it and are singularly focused on getting it the moment they set foot on campus as freshman

Business professor and Goldman Sachs alum here. I have sent Ph.D. students to become professors at Colgate, University of South Carolina, and have a former colleague at Lehigh. I was first-generation college and didn't even know what an investment banker or engineer was at age 17. I can't relate to a teenager who is "singularly focused" on such a narrow field.

Typically, DCUM fails to discuss the quality of education in finance, business, or other majors.

What schools provide the highest quality of education in business and finance? Are they "the usual suspects" (highly selective high prestige schools) or are there some "hidden gems" among the finance/business education schools?

Who cares about the "highest quality of education"? People major in business to get good jobs, not to "learn" about business. The most coveted positions generally require very little specific training.

Well the PP business professor cares and that's why I asked him. As you have nothing to contribute you should just STFU.

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Anonymous wrote:https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/best-undergraduate-business-schools-business-school-rankings/4/

+100

with employment and salary info

Top 5 outside of T25 would be

1 Villanova University
2 Texas Christian University (Neeley)
3 Northeastern University (D'Amore-McKim)
4 University of Richmond (Robins)
5 Fordham University (Gabelli)