Kids on a leash

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

Idiotic. How many children do you think some people have? from I am not an octopus.

Maybe the first PP IS Octomom in disguise?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

Seriously and I really mean seriously you must not have children. And yes that's the best that I can do because it's an honest statement that you really must not have children because if you had children you would know how ridiculous that statement is. OR you have an infant and are clueless as to what will happen when they are toddlers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many of you pro-leash folks also consider yourselves AP?

Sorry, but what is AP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

I can hold onto my child's hand just fine. But when my son becomes antsy and drops to ground in the middle of a busy sidewalk (doing the passive resistance move), I can only do so much.

He's two.

Should I sit and reason with him like so many of you "claim" you can do? b/c that really works . . .

You're all fooling yourselves if you think toddlers suddenly can be trained to reason.

And actually, PP, I'm questioning your ability to "sufficiently hold onto" a child's hand. Are you implying that perhaps a bit of manhandling is in order?

You really don't see the difference between restraining a child remotely through a leash and holding his hand? Being in human contact with him so he recognizes the signals given through the change in your grip on him or the way you position your arm? Being able to bend down and tell him he needs to cooperate or stay close or whatever? Rather than trying to wrangle him from 5 feet away?

If your kid drops to the sidewalk, pick him up and carry him. He's two.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

I can hold onto my child's hand just fine. But when my son becomes antsy and drops to ground in the middle of a busy sidewalk (doing the passive resistance move), I can only do so much.

He's two.

Should I sit and reason with him like so many of you "claim" you can do? b/c that really works . . .

You're all fooling yourselves if you think toddlers suddenly can be trained to reason.

And actually, PP, I'm questioning your ability to "sufficiently hold onto" a child's hand. Are you implying that perhaps a bit of manhandling is in order?

You really don't see the difference between restraining a child remotely through a leash and holding his hand? Being in human contact with him so he recognizes the signals given through the change in your grip on him or the way you position your arm? Being able to bend down and tell him he needs to cooperate or stay close or whatever? Rather than trying to wrangle him from 5 feet away?

If your kid drops to the sidewalk, pick him up and carry him. He's two.

I have a DD who is a runner. She hates to hold hands. Runs from me if I try. So I'm supposed to chase after her in the streets so that I can show her the subtle nuances of how mommy's hand feels when we're walking nicely and the sublte hand holding nuances of "oh dear God a car is racing towards us and we could possibly die?" As much as I would like to think my 19 month old is mature to understand these nuances...she doesn't...BECAUSE SHE'S A TODDLER!!!!

PP exactly how old is this child of yours that obeys your every subtle hand motion? This child that has never bolted away from you and would feel totally de-humanized because you gave them a teddy bear backpack. Oh Mon dieu!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

Seriously and I really mean seriously you must not have children. And yes that's the best that I can do because it's an honest statement that you really must not have children because if you had children you would know how ridiculous that statement is. OR you have an infant and are clueless as to what will happen when they are toddlers.

ITA! My DS is 16mo. and he is a fiercely independent walker and really fights me on the hand holding, I could squeeze his wrist in a death grip or pick him up either way he won't like it and a tantrum will result. I have yet to try a leash with him, but I probably will in the future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

I don't own a leash, but you can't be serious. My kid is not a runner, but my friend's two boys are--and how. Even young toddlers have strength and can break your grip, especially when they catch you off-guard. Do you have an active toddler or preschooler?

Also, kids are strapped into strollers in stores/outdoors--for the purpose of restraint. The leashes are another restraint, assuming you don't use them to drag a kid like a sack of potatoes. Otherwise, whatever--no biggie.

Completely serious. If I can do it, others certainly can.

Sorry, I tried to to rational, but you're just a douchebag.

[Anonymous]

Used to think it was terrible (pre-child). Now that I have a 3-year old runner and walk around the city all the time, I totally understand it. I'd much rather have a child restrained than hit by car and then god knows what....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

Idiotic. How many children do you think some people have? from I am not an octopus.

sounds like you have more kids than you can handle - condoms might be beneficial

[Anonymous]

The child harnesses or "leashes" are not 100% bad when used appropriately and I can certainly understand the reasoning for using them. Especially if you are in a crowded or dangerous place such as the metro or stores or near the street. It is a "backup" and a safety measure, and not an excuse to not teach your children to stay with you and not to run off.

However, when used inappropriately that's another story. Using it as the sole means of control and dragging a child is just wrong.

Personally I haven't used one, although I was tempted. Fortunately the oldest I watch (he's almost 3) is very good about holding my hand or onto the stroller.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

I can hold onto my child's hand just fine. But when my son becomes antsy and drops to ground in the middle of a busy sidewalk (doing the passive resistance move), I can only do so much.

He's two.

Should I sit and reason with him like so many of you "claim" you can do? b/c that really works . . .

You're all fooling yourselves if you think toddlers suddenly can be trained to reason.

And actually, PP, I'm questioning your ability to "sufficiently hold onto" a child's hand. Are you implying that perhaps a bit of manhandling is in order?

You really don't see the difference between restraining a child remotely through a leash and holding his hand? Being in human contact with him so he recognizes the signals given through the change in your grip on him or the way you position your arm? Being able to bend down and tell him he needs to cooperate or stay close or whatever? Rather than trying to wrangle him from 5 feet away?

If your kid drops to the sidewalk, pick him up and carry him. He's two.

totally agree

with parents willing to distance themselves from actively parenting their children it's not surprise that so many kids are out of control.

[Anonymous]

totally agree

with parents willing to distance themselves from actively parenting their children it's not surprise that so many kids are out of control.

You've made the leap that if a mother uses a leash as a back up safety plan that they no longer actively parent their child?? You don't think you are being a bit extreme? Then I guess I could say that the parents who don't use a leash (by the way I hate using the word leash) don't care enough about their children to do everything they can to ensure their safety. That sounded stupid right? Just like mother's who care enough to make sure their kids don't run off in a crowd aren't actively parenting since they aren't making flesh on flesh contact. I guess with that kind of reasoning mother's who use strollers aren't actively parenting either. We could go on and on with that string of logic.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, most of you pps sound a bit like idiots! Falling for this troll - probably the brazilian nanny (Ana Patricia, is that you?) or some clueless mother of an infant. It is clear that she just wants to stir shit up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hold their hands. It's a lot more acceptable in this culture, where tethering anyone with a leash is pretty dehumanizing.

and when they pull out of your hand hold and break away from you, running as fast as they can towards the street while you are still dealing with your other children and cannot just leave them in the stroller or playing while you chase the runner, who just runs faster when you call to them?

Really, you can't sufficiently hold onto your child's hand?

I don't own a leash, but you can't be serious. My kid is not a runner, but my friend's two boys are--and how. Even young toddlers have strength and can break your grip, especially when they catch you off-guard. Do you have an active toddler or preschooler?

Also, kids are strapped into strollers in stores/outdoors--for the purpose of restraint. The leashes are another restraint, assuming you don't use them to drag a kid like a sack of potatoes. Otherwise, whatever--no biggie.

Completely serious. If I can do it, others certainly can.

Sorry, I tried to to rational, but you're just a douchebag.

No, I'm someone who respects my child, and others, unlike you who's given to name calling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, most of you pps sound a bit like idiots! Falling for this troll - probably the brazilian nanny (Ana Patricia, is that you?) or some clueless mother of an infant. It is clear that she just wants to stir shit up.

No, my child's almost 4. And I've got 2 older step-children, including one with special needs given to elopement. It's far worse trying to run after a 17 year old than a 2 year old. We've never used leashes on them.