This is the way to look at it.. I'd add Berkeley to 2B and move Michigan to 2B as well. |
That's probably right. I do think some more can fit into 3B. Aso I think UCLA is probably overranked at 2B probably more accurate at 3A. Add Claremont McKenna and Bowdoin too I think. Rice I think belongs in 2A. Vassar and Smith probably belong at Barnard level or next one down. 1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton 1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech 2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Rice 2B) Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna. 3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard, 3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson, Vassar, Smith |
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1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech 2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Rice 2B) Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna. 3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard, 3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson, Vassar, Smith |
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1A) Harvard, Stanford, Yale, MIT, Princeton
1B) Caltech, Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Columbia 2A) Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, Duke, Williams, Amherst 2B) Vanderbilt, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, Notre Dame, WashU, Rice, Swarthmore, Pomona 3A) CMU, Emory, Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Wellesley 3B) UNC, BC, BU, W&M, UCSB, UCSD, Davidson, Barnard |
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It's impossible for any one person to have a real understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of 50+ schools except perhaps if you spent a whole career in college advising, visiting lots and lots of schools and hearing back from students about their experiences at a wide range of schools.
These lists just end up being replications of other peoples' lists since you are just reiterating someone else's opinions of relative status which is based on prior ideas of status. |
I'm not going to think more of graduates of many of your higher tier schools compared to your lower tiered schools in many cases. To me this is evidence that these are meaningless distinctions. |
Move pomona to 2a and this is right |
Looks good |
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This debate was basically ended through that popular Reddit post where someone took all the popular ranking systems and averaged each top school's ranks to find the best overall schools: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/xc0v5x/the_2023_supreme_t75_college_ranking_aggregating/
My breakdown would be: 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Duke, Yale 1B) Penn, Caltech, Columbia, Northwestern 2A) Vanderbilt, Rice, Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona 2B) UMich, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford |
Finally someone properly including LACs, this is the best one for sure. Academically LACs might have as good or even better of an experience compared to the "tier 1" schools but they lack in high caliber research and layman recognition, which might not matter much depending on the person. |
+1 except I think Duke is somewhere in the middle of 1A and 1B, I could see it being 1A in the future though. Caltech is also somewhere in that gray area between 1A and 1B. I also think Hopkins has a strong case for 2A instead of 2B. |
Hey someone remembers Hamilton, nice! |
Understatement of the century. |