Which schools DON'T go to the "other" pile for McKinsey?

[Anonymous]

Can someone give a primer on why McK is so evil? Genuinely curious here. I have my own thoughts but would love to hear others’ too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do gooder here🙋🏻‍♀️ Went into public interest (doj) law and then MPH to “help” society.

This middle class b$&@ who likely left millions on the table with those choices is encouraging DS to grab everything he can get (coming out of a school listed in the OP) Don’t male the same mistakes I did. You can plant trees and join a literacy project if you want to “help.”

So you'd be okay with your kid contributing to the opioid crisis?

I’d like to learn more about this person’s career trajectory that’s been so disappointing as to encourage her child to grindstrive. Sorry it’s come to that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they are a morally bankrupt company and ought to be prosecuted for their role in the opioid epidemic.

+1

I have absolutely no respect for that company anymore and I would strongly discourage my high achieving kids from even considering applying there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do gooder here🙋🏻‍♀️ Went into public interest (doj) law and then MPH to “help” society.

This middle class b$&@ who likely left millions on the table with those choices is encouraging DS to grab everything he can get (coming out of a school listed in the OP) Don’t male the same mistakes I did. You can plant trees and join a literacy project if you want to “help.”

Why don't you just tell him to become a doctor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

Non-profits are not the do-gooder, morally pure places you think they are. Read up on the non-profit industrial complex.

Also, a decent number of MBB alumni end up in the non-profit sphere after their 2 year stint at McKinsey. Just a testament to how the same insidious forces at consulting firms apply to (not so pure and do-gooder) non-profits.

In the case of government law jobs like DOJ and SEC, aren't those jobs mostly taken by ex-biglaw attorneys?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone give a primer on why McK is so evil? Genuinely curious here. I have my own thoughts but would love to hear others’ too.

They basically were the brains behind how to get as many people addicted to opioids as possible. Even when they started to know how bad it was to do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

Our family required our DC get a real job out of college or else. He is also a consultant and raking in the bucks. So very proud of him! He makes very generous contributions to non-profit organizations.

So I say what difference does it make whether he work for a non-profit for a salary vs. making contributions to them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t some of this just a numbers game? The main difference I notice between the oage for a “targeted school” vs others is that there is a “designated recruiter” for the targeted colleges. Of course there will be many more qualified applicants from Michigan/Cal than Willims, on a raw numbers basis, so would make sense they designate a recruiter for bigger colleges/ivies. I don’t think you can extrapolate that means they inherently value grads of Michigan over Williams, just using these colleges as examples.

Yep, OP did a lot of legwork, just to draw the wrong conclusion, oops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do gooder here🙋🏻‍♀️ Went into public interest (doj) law and then MPH to “help” society.

This middle class b$&@ who likely left millions on the table with those choices is encouraging DS to grab everything he can get (coming out of a school listed in the OP) Don’t male the same mistakes I did. You can plant trees and join a literacy project if you want to “help.”

So you'd be okay with your kid contributing to the opioid crisis?

I’d like to learn more about this person’s career trajectory that’s been so disappointing as to encourage her child to grindstrive. Sorry it’s come to that.

LOL, your disdain for middle class students trying to better their lot is evident. Seriously, "grindstrive?" So obvious.

If my kid landed a job at MBB after graduation ($120k starting salary with just a BA), I'd be proud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

Our family required our DC get a real job out of college or else. He is also a consultant and raking in the bucks. So very proud of him! He makes very generous contributions to non-profit organizations.

So I say what difference does it make whether he work for a non-profit for a salary vs. making contributions to them?

Sure, spend your days figuring out how to perpetuate the opioid crisis or how to saddle people who qualify for charitable care with medical bills or have a brainstorm session about making people forget a regime dismembered a journalist with a saw and then donate 10k to habitat for humanity and it's all good

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What other companies are as evil as McKinsey?

Nestle is still the most evil company in the world as far as I'm concerned. Not many others knowingly killed babies

Pfizer, Moderna, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

What really gets me is that they aren’t going to medical school, engineering, urban planning, PhD biology programs … I don’t care so much that they aren’t going to “do gooder” jobs, but they aren’t doing *anything* enriching to themselves (other than $$) or society. What a waste of brainpower and the privilege of a top college education.

If you don’t want students chasing money, then tell top schools to stop charging an outlandish fortune. Even after the schools supposedly “meet need” kids have a ton of debt. It is utterly unrealistic to saddle them with debt and then expect them to go do something “enriching” to themselves or society.

[Anonymous]

It's not a binary choice between McKinsey OR nonprofit poverty. There are a million jobs in between that pay decently and have neutral to positive benefits to society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not a binary choice between McKinsey OR nonprofit poverty. There are a million jobs in between that pay decently and have neutral to positive benefits to society.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone give a primer on why McK is so evil? Genuinely curious here. I have my own thoughts but would love to hear others’ too.

They basically were the brains behind how to get as many people addicted to opioids as possible. Even when they started to know how bad it was to do that.

It's beyond that. They also didn't manage conflicts in an ethical way and got into trouble for their work with S Africa. And they were always touting Enron before it imploded. Honestly the Enron thing is embarrassing. I would be embarrassed to say my kid worked there. Luckily for me my kid wants a better lifestyle so wants to be a dermatologist