Which schools DON'T go to the "other" pile for McKinsey?

[Anonymous]

I was looking at their careers page earlier today and came across this link: https://www.mckinsey.com/careers/students

If the school has a dedicated page when you enter its name in the box and click on the “[school name] - Undergraduate and Masters programs” link, it is a target school. If clicking on the link leads you to a generic “US Undergraduate & Masters” page (https://www.mckinsey.com/Careers/Students/Undergraduate-Degree-Candidates/Other-Schools), it goes to the "other" pile.

Here are the target schools:

Ivy Plus:
1. Princeton University
2. Harvard University
3. Yale University
4. University of Pennsylvania
5. Dartmouth College
6. Brown University
7. Cornell University
8. Columbia University and Barnard College

Public flagships:
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. University of Michigan
3. University of Virginia
4. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
5. University of Texas at Austin
6. Georgia Institute of Technology

Other privates:
1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2. Stanford University
3. University of Chicago
4. Duke University
5. Northwestern University
6. Vanderbilt University
7. Washington University in St. Louis
8. University of Notre Dame
9. Emory University
10. Georgetown University

It was interesting to see that all LACs (even Williams and Amherst) went to the "other pile."

[Anonymous]

Interesting.

For some more data, here are those target schools sorted by median starting salary of alumni (click on the school on US News and scroll down to "Median starting salary of alumni").

1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
2. Stanford University
3. Princeton University
4. Georgia Institute of Technology
5. Harvard University
6. Duke University
7. University of Pennsylvania
8. Cornell University
9. Columbia University
10. University of California, Berkeley
11. Dartmouth College
12. Yale University
13. University of Notre Dame
14. University of Michigan
15. Vanderbilt University
16. Brown University
17. Washington University in St. Louis
18. University of Virginia
19. Northwestern University
20. Emory University
21. University of Chicago
22. Georgetown University
23. University of Texas at Austin
24. University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

[Anonymous]

Who cares, they are a morally bankrupt company and ought to be prosecuted for their role in the opioid epidemic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they are a morally bankrupt company and ought to be prosecuted for their role in the opioid epidemic.

+1. And it is a miserable job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they are a morally bankrupt company and ought to be prosecuted for their role in the opioid epidemic.

Clicked on this post to say the same thing! This is not an argument FOR the list of target schools!
I’ve had the misfortune of working with them in various companies- if you want your kid to learn ppt and bs, it’s a great career. If you want to learn to stonewall while providing nothing of business value….

Horrible place and exactly the type of employee I never want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they are a morally bankrupt company and ought to be prosecuted for their role in the opioid epidemic.

+1. And it is a miserable job.

+3. Also check out the NYT series from last weekend on how McKinsey advised non profit hospitals to collect bills from patients who were legally entitled to free charity care.

[Anonymous]

+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

What really gets me is that they aren’t going to medical school, engineering, urban planning, PhD biology programs … I don’t care so much that they aren’t going to “do gooder” jobs, but they aren’t doing *anything* enriching to themselves (other than $$) or society. What a waste of brainpower and the privilege of a top college education.

[Anonymous]

+1000!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 I read that nauseating NY piece, too.

I hate what this area has become. Students aspiring to be MBB consultants instead of nonprofit workers. FinTech instead of medicine. BigLaw instead of ADAs or DoJ. I’m not even that old but I feel angry and resentful, missing the more innocent days of the nineties.

What really gets me is that they aren’t going to medical school, engineering, urban planning, PhD biology programs … I don’t care so much that they aren’t going to “do gooder” jobs, but they aren’t doing *anything* enriching to themselves (other than $$) or society. What a waste of brainpower and the privilege of a top college education.

These days, many more kids who choose those schools have been pushed and trained to get into those schools for their own sake and prestige; in other words they have been trained to grab the next brass ring because they are entitled to it and it makes THEM look better, not because it enables them to do something useful for the world. After all, you can do the latter from ANYWHERE often for less money and while having more fun. Someone is teaching the likes of OP that McKinsey is some prize job because their morals and priorities and even their entire world view is completely off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who cares, they are a morally bankrupt company and ought to be prosecuted for their role in the opioid epidemic.

+1 McKinsey is legitimately terrible.

[Anonymous]

They told Pharma how to profit from overdoses and how to promote even more ODs. Horrible company.

[Anonymous]

On level with Private Equity firms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They told Pharma how to profit from overdoses and how to promote even more ODs. Horrible company.

They also advised Catholic hospitals on how to squeeze money out of poor patients entitled to charity subsidies under state laws. (Meanwhile same Catholic hospitals refusing to allow patients to access birth control.) https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/24/business/nonprofit-hospitals-poor-patients.html

I am not as moralistic as I used to be about “evil” jobs, but I honestly think McKinsey and PE are pretty darn close. These kids would probably never dream of going to work for Phillip Morris or Exxon, yet they will run after McKinsey.

[Anonymous]

What other companies are as evil as McKinsey?