Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?

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Anonymous wrote:There was so much advanced warning. I do not understand all these submerged cars. Aren't people bright enough to do things like take your car to a parking structure and park on an upper floor? Or are people just counting on insurance?

There wasn't much warning for Naples and Ft Myers. The hurricane was due to hit Tampa Bay head on - then took a turn. People have had to react very quickly and don't have tons of options. How many upper floor parking structures do you think were available in the 12 hours before a cat 4 hurricane hit?

Larger question: why on earth own property in Florida? At some point it's going to take extensive storm/flood damage. Even inland, there's threat to life and property in Ian's path.

This can be said for any sea coast community that doesn’t sit on 20 feet of granite ledge. Essentially the whole eastern seaboard until New England.

True, but at least those places don't have jacka$$ governor Desantis. Who did not want to give aid to people during COVID. Well let's see how well he'll pull them up with boot straps. Of course, he'll expect federal handouts.

[Anonymous]

I had to turn the volume down on the TV and just read the captions—the national reporters they deploy to these disasters sound positively gleeful as they stand out in the whipping wind like idiots. I wish they’d let their local affiliates do the reporting, since they actually know something about the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had to turn the volume down on the TV and just read the captions—the national reporters they deploy to these disasters sound positively gleeful as they stand out in the whipping wind like idiots. I wish they’d let their local affiliates do the reporting, since they actually know something about the area.

I’ve been watching the Weather Channel today. No dramatic reporting just the weather.

[Anonymous]

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Not really, people. There are only some parts of the country where risk to life and property is very high. Not all coastal areas have the same hurricane risk. The further up north you go, the smaller it is.

All the people who made the calculation that no winter + no taxes were worth a hurricane or two aren't happy right now in Fort Myers, or indeed in large swathes of the Florida.

California along earthquake fault lines and in wildfire and mudslides zones is very risky too.

Tornado alley in the midwest is actually less risky compared to those two.

Don't be angry that I'm pointing out the obvious. Just assess weather risk properly.

PP from Orlando. This is highly unusual for a hurricane to hit this hard in the middle of the state. Risk assessment only takes you so far. And don't be glib. We came here for a job transfer, just like what brought us to DC, not no winter and no taxes. Save your musings for a time when people aren't fearing for mass catastrophes. We're looking at mass flooding and it makes you feel good to pontificate about this on a message board? I mean, really. Don't be a dick. It's not that hard. I know it's sport here to make fun of Florida. Maybe wait until later if you absolutely must.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had to turn the volume down on the TV and just read the captions—the national reporters they deploy to these disasters sound positively gleeful as they stand out in the whipping wind like idiots. I wish they’d let their local affiliates do the reporting, since they actually know something about the area.

I’ve been watching the Weather Channel today. No dramatic reporting just the weather.

Um, the Weather Channel pretty much originated the dramatic reporting PP was talking about.

[Anonymous]

I found these videos posted to Twitter of the hurricane:

https://twitter.com/UberFacts/status/1575193315510603776?s=20&t=3dsAZNXyvPsu5t7bAhrP1w

https://twitter.com/wxkaitlin/status/1575159632963813377?s=20&t=3dsAZNXyvPsu5t7bAhrP1w

https://twitter.com/YWNReporter/status/1575169967732846596?s=20&t=3dsAZNXyvPsu5t7bAhrP1w

https://twitter.com/ReedTimmerAccu/status/1575147640991490050?s=20&t=3dsAZNXyvPsu5t7bAhrP1w Wait till end to see guy filming. Boy he is amped

https://twitter.com/IanFootage/status/1575243176918470656?s=20&t=jtX2InlLqJWekPWIoVBuzQ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was so much advanced warning. I do not understand all these submerged cars. Aren't people bright enough to do things like take your car to a parking structure and park on an upper floor? Or are people just counting on insurance?

There wasn't much warning for Naples and Ft Myers. The hurricane was due to hit Tampa Bay head on - then took a turn. People have had to react very quickly and don't have tons of options. How many upper floor parking structures do you think were available in the 12 hours before a cat 4 hurricane hit?

Larger question: why on earth own property in Florida? At some point it's going to take extensive storm/flood damage. Even inland, there's threat to life and property in Ian's path.

I live inland-in a coastal county in Tampa Bay-and I'm not in a flood zone and my house is up to current stringent hurricane codes. Unlike my house inland in NE that took damage from Hurricane Irene.

We got really lucky here but Ian turned fast towards Naples and Ft Myers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Not really, people. There are only some parts of the country where risk to life and property is very high. Not all coastal areas have the same hurricane risk. The further up north you go, the smaller it is.

All the people who made the calculation that no winter + no taxes were worth a hurricane or two aren't happy right now in Fort Myers, or indeed in large swathes of the Florida.

California along earthquake fault lines and in wildfire and mudslides zones is very risky too.

Tornado alley in the midwest is actually less risky compared to those two.

Don't be angry that I'm pointing out the obvious. Just assess weather risk properly.

PP from Orlando. This is highly unusual for a hurricane to hit this hard in the middle of the state. Risk assessment only takes you so far. And don't be glib. We came here for a job transfer, just like what brought us to DC, not no winter and no taxes. Save your musings for a time when people aren't fearing for mass catastrophes. We're looking at mass flooding and it makes you feel good to pontificate about this on a message board? I mean, really. Don't be a dick. It's not that hard. I know it's sport here to make fun of Florida. Maybe wait until later if you absolutely must.

PP wasn’t making fun of anyone. S/he was pointing out that Florida, with its unique attributes, is terribly flood prone, especially so with global warming. You might have landed there for work, but you know many chose it for other reasons and you are well aware it’s a gamble. I hope you and yours are safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was so much advanced warning. I do not understand all these submerged cars. Aren't people bright enough to do things like take your car to a parking structure and park on an upper floor? Or are people just counting on insurance?

Coming to a sketchy dealership near you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Not really, people. There are only some parts of the country where risk to life and property is very high. Not all coastal areas have the same hurricane risk. The further up north you go, the smaller it is.

All the people who made the calculation that no winter + no taxes were worth a hurricane or two aren't happy right now in Fort Myers, or indeed in large swathes of the Florida.

California along earthquake fault lines and in wildfire and mudslides zones is very risky too.

Tornado alley in the midwest is actually less risky compared to those two.

Don't be angry that I'm pointing out the obvious. Just assess weather risk properly.

PP from Orlando. This is highly unusual for a hurricane to hit this hard in the middle of the state. Risk assessment only takes you so far. And don't be glib. We came here for a job transfer, just like what brought us to DC, not no winter and no taxes. Save your musings for a time when people aren't fearing for mass catastrophes. We're looking at mass flooding and it makes you feel good to pontificate about this on a message board? I mean, really. Don't be a dick. It's not that hard. I know it's sport here to make fun of Florida. Maybe wait until later if you absolutely must.

PP wasn’t making fun of anyone. S/he was pointing out that Florida, with its unique attributes, is terribly flood prone, especially so with global warming. You might have landed there for work, but you know many chose it for other reasons and you are well aware it’s a gamble. I hope you and yours are safe.

NP. I know quite a few people who own second homes there which is a big part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was so much advanced warning. I do not understand all these submerged cars. Aren't people bright enough to do things like take your car to a parking structure and park on an upper floor? Or are people just counting on insurance?

There wasn't much warning for Naples and Ft Myers. The hurricane was due to hit Tampa Bay head on - then took a turn. People have had to react very quickly and don't have tons of options. How many upper floor parking structures do you think were available in the 12 hours before a cat 4 hurricane hit?

Larger question: why on earth own property in Florida? At some point it's going to take extensive storm/flood damage. Even inland, there's threat to life and property in Ian's path.

Similar stupid question: why on earth own property in California? At some point it's going to burn or get wrecked by an earthquake. And why on earth own property in....

True. My city was wrecked by an earthquake, and it wasn't even designated as the highest risk city for earthquakes. Other people live near a volcano, in tornado alley, near a river, near a war zone etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had to turn the volume down on the TV and just read the captions—the national reporters they deploy to these disasters sound positively gleeful as they stand out in the whipping wind like idiots. I wish they’d let their local affiliates do the reporting, since they actually know something about the area.

I’ve been watching the Weather Channel today. No dramatic reporting just the weather.

Um, the Weather Channel pretty much originated the dramatic reporting PP was talking about.

Why do they still stick their reporters out in the wind and rain and in the path of debris? Imagine if it had been a flying piece of roofing iron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was so much advanced warning. I do not understand all these submerged cars. Aren't people bright enough to do things like take your car to a parking structure and park on an upper floor? Or are people just counting on insurance?

There wasn't much warning for Naples and Ft Myers. The hurricane was due to hit Tampa Bay head on - then took a turn. People have had to react very quickly and don't have tons of options. How many upper floor parking structures do you think were available in the 12 hours before a cat 4 hurricane hit?

There was an envelope of uncertainty that encompassed SW FL in general, and forecasters were pretty clear that the effects from the storm would be felt wider than where it came ashore. You live in those areas and you need to be prepared, pay attention to forecasts, and have a plan for evacuation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had to turn the volume down on the TV and just read the captions—the national reporters they deploy to these disasters sound positively gleeful as they stand out in the whipping wind like idiots. I wish they’d let their local affiliates do the reporting, since they actually know something about the area.

I’ve been watching the Weather Channel today. No dramatic reporting just the weather.

Um, the Weather Channel pretty much originated the dramatic reporting PP was talking about.

Why do they still stick their reporters out in the wind and rain and in the path of debris? Imagine if it had been a flying piece of roofing iron.

Knowing Cantore, he did that willingly!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had to turn the volume down on the TV and just read the captions—the national reporters they deploy to these disasters sound positively gleeful as they stand out in the whipping wind like idiots. I wish they’d let their local affiliates do the reporting, since they actually know something about the area.

I’ve been watching the Weather Channel today. No dramatic reporting just the weather.

Um, the Weather Channel pretty much originated the dramatic reporting PP was talking about.

Why do they still stick their reporters out in the wind and rain and in the path of debris? Imagine if it had been a flying piece of roofing iron.

Knowing Cantore, he did that willingly!

it makes for good TV