Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?

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Climate change is a hoax. Nothing is happening in Florida. We should ignore hurricane coverage.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

The knots some of you tie yourself in.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

The knots some of you tie yourself in.

Like you just did.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

Yes, I do know and I did check. Are you telling me the hotel workers on Sanibel can’t work anywhere else in Florida but Sanibel? There are currently 1.5 million open hospitality jobs in the US.

[Anonymous]

Look at OBX. This is maybe tropical storm level event there. They are having problems keeping the road open.

https://islandfreepress.org/outer-banks-news/n-c-highway-12-remains-open-with-minor-flooding-reported-tropical-storm-warning-remains-in-effect/

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

Yes, I do know and I did check. Are you telling me the hotel workers on Sanibel can’t work anywhere else in Florida but Sanibel? There are currently 1.5 million open hospitality jobs in the US.

No, you don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

Yes, I do know and I did check. Are you telling me the hotel workers on Sanibel can’t work anywhere else in Florida but Sanibel? There are currently 1.5 million open hospitality jobs in the US.

NP. You are a dreadful simpleton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How will it be determined what the federal government pays for and doesn’t? I know de Santis already requested a lot of money, and it was approved (??)

Oh the will rebuild Sanibel is a few weeks. Then those people will complain about the lazy poor people who are not showing up to work the frier at their favor restaurant. It is so hard to get good help.

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Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.

My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.

It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.

Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.

6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.

How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.

Never having been to Florida or read that much about the state, I don’t actually know much about Sanibel Island; I had the vague idea it was for very wealthy people. Whether or not these are second (or third or fourth) homes, I don’t feel comfortable bailing out the kind people who can afford to buy a tiny little condo for 800K or a nice mansion for $4M, especially not when it’s not unlikely to need to be bailed out again what with the way global warming is super powering hurricanes. Let’s not pretend that Sanibel Island is some historic working class neighborhood that needs help. It isn’t. https://www.redfin.com/city/16325/FL/Sanibel/filter/viewport=26.45208:26.43071:-82.02361:-82.05524

why do you assume Sanibel's existence only benefits wealthy people? You don't think there are (non-rich) people who work in the tourism industry that generates ...oh, $4 billion per year on the island? The hotel clerks? The fishing boat operators? The small business owners? The restaurant servers? Those who work for the wildlife refuges that make up half the island? The librarians? Sanibel is not some walled off (metaphorical) island. There are many, many people whose livelihood revolves around Sanibel Island.

Worms for brains, I swear.

The last time I checked there were plenty of mainland businesses begging for workers.

You didn’t check and you don’t know that.

Yes, I do know and I did check. Are you telling me the hotel workers on Sanibel can’t work anywhere else in Florida but Sanibel? There are currently 1.5 million open hospitality jobs in the US.

NP. You are a dreadful simpleton.

Whatever MAGA. When your community is destroyed again in three years time don’t come cryin’

[Anonymous]

A man in Fort Meyer was on the news describing his harrowing experience riding out the storm including his tesla floating out of his garage. I totally get people staying put if they have limited means or are expected at work, but why was tesla guy at home a few blocks from the beach!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A man in Fort Meyer was on the news describing his harrowing experience riding out the storm including his tesla floating out of his garage. I totally get people staying put if they have limited means or are expected at work, but why was tesla guy at home a few blocks from the beach!?

Some rich people think they’re invincible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A man in Fort Meyer was on the news describing his harrowing experience riding out the storm including his tesla floating out of his garage. I totally get people staying put if they have limited means or are expected at work, but why was tesla guy at home a few blocks from the beach!?

Amen. And now that Tesla will end up in the ocean or pile of debris with all of its battery toxins polluting the environment.

[Anonymous]

So as callous as it sounds, hurricanes are big business for Florida. The infrastructure rebuilding brings in tons of jobs the people from out of state coming in to help bring people to stay in hotels and they create a need for food which increases the service industry. Short term, the area is kind of f*cked. Midterm they're kind of screwed. Long-term will be fine.