How many times do I have to protest against the deficiencies in a system before someone listens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times, how many ways do I have to say, “it's not working?" How many times do I have to point out the failures and the problems? How many times do I have to protest against the deficiencies in a system before someone listens? Or does it really matter that I'm unhappy with a system, as long as those who have imposed this on us are happy?

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2022/09/a-dangerous-scenario-that-puts-mcps.html

This sounds unhinged.

Yes, Chris all parents are unhinged to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times, how many ways do I have to say, “it's not working?" How many times do I have to point out the failures and the problems? How many times do I have to protest against the deficiencies in a system before someone listens? Or does it really matter that I'm unhappy with a system, as long as those who have imposed this on us are happy?

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2022/09/a-dangerous-scenario-that-puts-mcps.html

This sounds unhinged.

Yes, they're a well-known fringe group that complains about everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times, how many ways do I have to say, “it's not working?" How many times do I have to point out the failures and the problems? How many times do I have to protest against the deficiencies in a system before someone listens? Or does it really matter that I'm unhappy with a system, as long as those who have imposed this on us are happy?

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2022/09/a-dangerous-scenario-that-puts-mcps.html

This sounds unhinged.

Yes, they're a well-known fringe group that complains about everything.

They are called parents and guardians all over the county. That is the group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many times, how many ways do I have to say, “it's not working?" How many times do I have to point out the failures and the problems? How many times do I have to protest against the deficiencies in a system before someone listens? Or does it really matter that I'm unhappy with a system, as long as those who have imposed this on us are happy?

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2022/09/a-dangerous-scenario-that-puts-mcps.html

This sounds unhinged.

Yes, they're a well-known fringe group that complains about everything.

They are called parents and guardians all over the county. That is the group.

Yes, a small but vocal fringe group that complains a lot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to gain more momentum on this, learn to write clearly and more concise. There was a lot of fluff in there and it was hard to follow. Your issue is that parentvue will show a 0 when it's not true?

The article suggests it's hard to use and unreliable. In my experience, neither of those statements is true. In a half dozen years the only time it was down for me was when they were doing regularly scheduled maintenance once. Further, I find it easy to use in its simplicity.

Yes sometimes grades aren't updated but no technology is going to make up for teachers failing to enter grades in a timely manner.

[Anonymous]

Wtf. What about it is “dangerous”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ask your kid about the assignments and grades. Why do they need to be up anywhere?
It's your kids job to keep up with homework. I hardly ever ask or check the grades.It's true that they are not entered often or correctly, so why even bother to check. It's true that the kid is not learning anything, but neither are other kid. Most will be fine.

Do you realize what you’re saying? Are you genuinely ok with your kid not learning anything?

[Anonymous]

Welcome to bureaucracy.

Honestly, I'm sure this is annoying, but you only get one life. Save your protests for real injustice.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand. What exactly is the "dangerous scenario"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should also be noted that McPs did not create parentvue or mymcps—those are software platforms that are sold to school districts across the country. If McPS tried to come up with a bespoke software solution, I bet it would be worse. Maybe someone should found a software company to come up with a better alternative? I’m actually surprised Google has not come up with something, since one of google’s goals seems to be to capture the American education system with their hardware and software.

MCPS did come up with MyMCPS. And it was worse. Money already wasted.

Good grief-MyMCPS is on Canvas. It was not created by MCPS. Many colleges use it as their online platform. Might want to educate yourself before making comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should also be noted that McPs did not create parentvue or mymcps—those are software platforms that are sold to school districts across the country. If McPS tried to come up with a bespoke software solution, I bet it would be worse. Maybe someone should found a software company to come up with a better alternative? I’m actually surprised Google has not come up with something, since one of google’s goals seems to be to capture the American education system with their hardware and software.

MCPS did come up with MyMCPS. And it was worse. Money already wasted.

Is t mymcps just their name for canvas? Canvas is a really large online software platform used by many school systems. Mcps maybe did some customization of it but it’s not their creation. Part of the problem seems to be that neither synergy nor canvas provide everything they need, so they are using two different platforms that don’t communicate well. (Actually three when you add in Google.). I don’t know if there’s a solution for that—one ring to rule them all, so to speak.

LOL My mcps was not just another name for canvas. It’s the name for what mcps invented on their own. Millions of dollars on a disaster platform by a mcps director with an English degree and no background in tech.

Umm...MCPS has NOTHING to do with the creation of Canvas. MCPS adopted Canvas as their educational technology platform. How hard is it to do some research? You're just wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should also be noted that McPs did not create parentvue or mymcps—those are software platforms that are sold to school districts across the country. If McPS tried to come up with a bespoke software solution, I bet it would be worse. Maybe someone should found a software company to come up with a better alternative? I’m actually surprised Google has not come up with something, since one of google’s goals seems to be to capture the American education system with their hardware and software.

MCPS did come up with MyMCPS. And it was worse. Money already wasted.

No it didn’t. It’s a tweaked version of canvas.

[Anonymous]

NP here. I also was really turned off by the tone of the initial post but I also HATE parentvue-- I don't think it's a problem with the system but with how teachers post things-- they don't realize the implications of what they are doing.

Here's the dangerous bit:
My ex would get notifications and SCREAM at DS for what he was seeing. Sometimes his interpretation was correct (DS had failed a test or hadn't turned in an assignment). But sometimes his interpretation of what he was seeing was completely wrong. But the screaming was the same, and the kid became fearful that even when things were going well at school, something would cause screaming at home.

For instance,
If a quiz has 5 points of m/c questions and 5 points of essay questions, we would get an automated email message saying DS had scored a 5/10 because the computer would grade the first 5 questions and the teacher hadn't yet graded the other 5 points. Surely, the teacher doesn't have to set it up like this, but I've had teachers do this-- cue yelling and subsequent crying.

Sometimes ds didn't take a makeup test (because he'd done well on the original) but we still get an email message saying 0/10 on that score.

In Canvas, there are regularly assignments listed as 'missing' only because they were turned in through some other system besides Canvas (on paper; using some other webpage). I don't think this happens in Synergy, but definitely in Canvas. Why does the teacher set up a Canvas assignment that automatically turns to 'missing' on the due date? I have no clue, and it is really confusing and disruptive.

One time, I was concerned that so many of ds's Canvas showed 'late.' I reached out to the teacher who said that ds was doing great, was on track, that she didn't perceive any problems. I guess the due dates were listed in Canvas, but in class she was telling the kids 'no big deal' if they come in late. That's just confusing. (Personally, I'd prefer real, enforced due dates. But if you aren't going to impose them, why indicate to parents that things are late if you are indicating to kids that it's not a problem to submit it next week?)

So it's not a technology problem. It's a problem that teachers aren't setting up the assignments well. And that's because the teachers don't really understand what we are seeing on the other side-- they probably don't know that we're getting emails with 5/10 or 0/10 so they don't know to correct it. They don't know parents are looking in Canvas, or aren't thinking much about what they may be seeing there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should also be noted that McPs did not create parentvue or mymcps—those are software platforms that are sold to school districts across the country. If McPS tried to come up with a bespoke software solution, I bet it would be worse. Maybe someone should found a software company to come up with a better alternative? I’m actually surprised Google has not come up with something, since one of google’s goals seems to be to capture the American education system with their hardware and software.

MCPS did come up with MyMCPS. And it was worse. Money already wasted.

Good grief-MyMCPS is on Canvas. It was not created by MCPS. Many colleges use it as their online platform. Might want to educate yourself before making comments.

Good grief how stupid are you.

June 11, 2013 Montgomery County Public Schools | Follow us on Twitter

‘myMCPS’ data tool to provide one-stop portal for staff

‘myMCPS’ data tool to provide one-stop portal for staff
Northwest High School administrative secretary Kathy McCauley checks out the preview version of the myMCPS website.

How would you like to be able to access information about curriculum, applications, dashboards and reports—all in one location? A new web-based one-stop portal, called “myMCPS,” will soon be available to help staff do just that. Instead of having to sign on to different MCPS sites you currently use—such as Professional Development Online (PDO), OASIS or the Help Desk—you will be able to sign on to myMCPS once. From there, you’ll have access to many of the different sites, without having to sign on again.

For example, principals and teachers will be able to go to myMCPS to see student profile reports. School secretaries can visit the site for student demographic and scheduling information. Staff will be able to enter and monitor student assessment scores and access the Curriculum Archive and other instructional resources. MyMCPS visitors also will be able to see their Outlook messages and calendar, as well as their PDO information. MCPS news releases also will be available from the site.

A preview version of myMCPS can now be accessed in all schools from an icon on staff workstations. The final version, which will include access for all staff, will be released in November, along with online training and assistance.

Information will be provided through various “centers”:

Information CenterMessage Center
Report CenterStudent Center
Classroom Management
School Management
Curriculum Center
Instructional data assistants in elementary and middle schools will receive face-to-face training this fall, and high schools will be asked to send a designated person to the training. Staff who are trained go back to their schools to help other staff transition to the site.

Additional information about training and support for the transition will follow. For more information about myMCPS, contact your school’s technology consultant.

Link to myMCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I also was really turned off by the tone of the initial post but I also HATE parentvue-- I don't think it's a problem with the system but with how teachers post things-- they don't realize the implications of what they are doing.

Here's the dangerous bit:
My ex would get notifications and SCREAM at DS for what he was seeing. Sometimes his interpretation was correct (DS had failed a test or hadn't turned in an assignment). But sometimes his interpretation of what he was seeing was completely wrong. But the screaming was the same, and the kid became fearful that even when things were going well at school, something would cause screaming at home.

For instance,
If a quiz has 5 points of m/c questions and 5 points of essay questions, we would get an automated email message saying DS had scored a 5/10 because the computer would grade the first 5 questions and the teacher hadn't yet graded the other 5 points. Surely, the teacher doesn't have to set it up like this, but I've had teachers do this-- cue yelling and subsequent crying.

Sometimes ds didn't take a makeup test (because he'd done well on the original) but we still get an email message saying 0/10 on that score.

In Canvas, there are regularly assignments listed as 'missing' only because they were turned in through some other system besides Canvas (on paper; using some other webpage). I don't think this happens in Synergy, but definitely in Canvas. Why does the teacher set up a Canvas assignment that automatically turns to 'missing' on the due date? I have no clue, and it is really confusing and disruptive.

One time, I was concerned that so many of ds's Canvas showed 'late.' I reached out to the teacher who said that ds was doing great, was on track, that she didn't perceive any problems. I guess the due dates were listed in Canvas, but in class she was telling the kids 'no big deal' if they come in late. That's just confusing. (Personally, I'd prefer real, enforced due dates. But if you aren't going to impose them, why indicate to parents that things are late if you are indicating to kids that it's not a problem to submit it next week?)

So it's not a technology problem. It's a problem that teachers aren't setting up the assignments well. And that's because the teachers don't really understand what we are seeing on the other side-- they probably don't know that we're getting emails with 5/10 or 0/10 so they don't know to correct it. They don't know parents are looking in Canvas, or aren't thinking much about what they may be seeing there.

+1,000