Anyone watch the documentary about college hazing on PBS?

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Anonymous wrote:Is this primarily a large school thing? I went to a very small school and really never heard anything like this going on.

How small is "very small?"

Here is a list of Hazing deaths--and these are just DEATHS, not every instance or even instances that ended in injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hazing_deaths_in_the_United_States

There are all kind of schools there--Big schools, small schools, public schools, private schools, Ivy league, HBUC....

3500 undergrads. And also I'm a girl. This list is almost entirely men. Men are idiots with terrible judgement.

There are schools about that size or smaller than that on the list (Wabash, Rider University-just off the top of my head.)

Yes, mostly men have died.

I hope you don't have any sons.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I refused to allow our students to get involved with the Greek houses at college. They wanted to because they crave the social life. But there is more terrible stuff beyond hazing and young people are vulnerable and lonely.

How can you refuse an adult to make a decision for them.

My DD currently at a state school in GA and in a sorority has NEVER been hazed.

Lol, you are naive if u think she’s never been hazed

DP here. I was in a sorority at a state school and was never hazed. Nor was I personally aware of anyone hazed. We were in one of the "nerdy" sororities though.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone elaborate please? Is this about frats or something else?

Its not just the frats. All female dorms haze, as well

Marching bands too.
It's tradition for the drum major at Florida A&M to get hazed and caused the death of Robert Champion many years ago.

Also the Cal Aggie marching Band-uh at UC Davis was disbanded by the university a couple years ago due to hazing. I have personal experience with that one.

I have never heard of marching band hazing. I was in marching band at a big midwest university and never experienced this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone elaborate please? Is this about frats or something else?

Its not just the frats. All female dorms haze, as well

Marching bands too.
It's tradition for the drum major at Florida A&M to get hazed and caused the death of Robert Champion many years ago.

Also the Cal Aggie marching Band-uh at UC Davis was disbanded by the university a couple years ago due to hazing. I have personal experience with that one.

I have never heard of marching band hazing. I was in marching band at a big midwest university and never experienced this

https://cnpa.com/cja2019/print/2019_California_Journalism_Awards___Print_Contest/General/02_Public_Service_Journalism_(DA,DB)/Second_Place_The_Sacramento_Bee_2/Attachment_01.pdf
Here's an article about the band-uh...and there's many more if you google.
I was in it for just a couple weeks in the mid 90s, realized quickly it was not for me. But it was a horrible way to start college.

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I used to work with a man had a fire brand on his upper arm with the logo/symbol of a black fraternity. It was burned into his skin and he had keloid scarring. It was sick. He didn't seem glad about it. Young people make bad decisions and being excepted into a group is so important to them. Parents need to discourage joining up.

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So many men have been branded by their fraternity.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work with a man had a fire brand on his upper arm with the logo/symbol of a black fraternity. It was burned into his skin and he had keloid scarring. It was sick. He didn't seem glad about it. Young people make bad decisions and being excepted into a group is so important to them. Parents need to discourage joining up.

Key & Peele on branding https://youtu.be/vBzPsY3D58k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I refused to allow our students to get involved with the Greek houses at college. They wanted to because they crave the social life. But there is more terrible stuff beyond hazing and young people are vulnerable and lonely.

How can you refuse an adult to make a decision for them.

My DD currently at a state school in GA and in a sorority has NEVER been hazed.

Lol, you are naive if u think she’s never been hazed

DP here. I was in a sorority at a state school and was never hazed. Nor was I personally aware of anyone hazed. We were in one of the "nerdy" sororities though.

I went to one of the sought after universities in the South. Several of my suitemates joined sororities and I can tell you horror stores. I was being pressured to join one in particular but the hazing was so bad I would not even consider it. There were injuries. They were handled just like the assaults of the women in my dorm by the football team. No one every knew but the parties involved and the witnesses and nothing was ever done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rushing is a disgusting process … PETIID.

Even take away the hazing it’s horrid.

Change the whole model.

+1 despise greek life in colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to work with a man had a fire brand on his upper arm with the logo/symbol of a black fraternity. It was burned into his skin and he had keloid scarring. It was sick. He didn't seem glad about it. Young people make bad decisions and being excepted into a group is so important to them. Parents need to discourage joining up.

My white cousin has his fraternity letter branded into his calf. I just can’t imagine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to work with a man had a fire brand on his upper arm with the logo/symbol of a black fraternity. It was burned into his skin and he had keloid scarring. It was sick. He didn't seem glad about it. Young people make bad decisions and being excepted into a group is so important to them. Parents need to discourage joining up.

Key & Peele on branding https://youtu.be/vBzPsY3D58k

I knew several Qs. The brand was a thing of pride back in the day. It is horrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this primarily a large school thing? I went to a very small school and really never heard anything like this going on.

How small is "very small?"

Here is a list of Hazing deaths--and these are just DEATHS, not every instance or even instances that ended in injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hazing_deaths_in_the_United_States

There are all kind of schools there--Big schools, small schools, public schools, private schools, Ivy league, HBUC....

3500 undergrads. And also I'm a girl. This list is almost entirely men. Men are idiots with terrible judgement.

There are schools about that size or smaller than that on the list (Wabash, Rider University-just off the top of my head.)

Yes, mostly men have died.

I hope you don't have any sons.

Why do you hope I don't have sons? My husband is a man (obviously) and tells me all the time what an idiot he was in college. They are way more likely to lack impulse control and engage in a mob-mentality behavior than girls are. They are also more likely to think they are invincible. Its important for them to know this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this primarily a large school thing? I went to a very small school and really never heard anything like this going on.

How small is "very small?"

Here is a list of Hazing deaths--and these are just DEATHS, not every instance or even instances that ended in injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hazing_deaths_in_the_United_States

There are all kind of schools there--Big schools, small schools, public schools, private schools, Ivy league, HBUC....

3500 undergrads. And also I'm a girl. This list is almost entirely men. Men are idiots with terrible judgement.

There are schools about that size or smaller than that on the list (Wabash, Rider University-just off the top of my head.)

Yes, mostly men have died.

I hope you don't have any sons.

Why do you hope I don't have sons? My husband is a man (obviously) and tells me all the time what an idiot he was in college. They are way more likely to lack impulse control and engage in a mob-mentality behavior than girls are. They are also more likely to think they are invincible. Its important for them to know this.

Because you made an insulting comment applying to all males. YOUR husband is an idiot but not all males are. My sons are not.

FWIW, I hope you don't have daughters either. People like you and your husband should not procreate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this primarily a large school thing? I went to a very small school and really never heard anything like this going on.

How small is "very small?"

Here is a list of Hazing deaths--and these are just DEATHS, not every instance or even instances that ended in injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hazing_deaths_in_the_United_States

There are all kind of schools there--Big schools, small schools, public schools, private schools, Ivy league, HBUC....

3500 undergrads. And also I'm a girl. This list is almost entirely men. Men are idiots with terrible judgement.

There are schools about that size or smaller than that on the list (Wabash, Rider University-just off the top of my head.)

Yes, mostly men have died.

I hope you don't have any sons.

Why do you hope I don't have sons? My husband is a man (obviously) and tells me all the time what an idiot he was in college. They are way more likely to lack impulse control and engage in a mob-mentality behavior than girls are. They are also more likely to think they are invincible. Its important for them to know this.

Because you made an insulting comment applying to all males. YOUR husband is an idiot but not all males are. My sons are not.

FWIW, I hope you don't have daughters either. People like you and your husband should not procreate.

You are really naive to think this couldn't happen to your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I refused to allow our students to get involved with the Greek houses at college. They wanted to because they crave the social life. But there is more terrible stuff beyond hazing and young people are vulnerable and lonely.

How can you refuse an adult to make a decision for them.

My DD currently at a state school in GA and in a sorority has NEVER been hazed.

Could your kid afford it without parental support? I think we paid something like 600 a year!

My kid worked her butt off to pay for her sorority. We actually communicate. I know for a fact she hasn’t been hazed.