Homelessness vs. Student Loan foregiveness

[Anonymous]

I wish someone solved the homelessness problem though. Not by pouring money into yet another expensive housing project, but by building a path to involuntary commitment.
I support student loan forgiveness as well. I stopped putting money into my kid’s 529 once I heard the news. I didn’t believe they would actually write off the loans, but they did! It means they may do it again. So it’s better for him to take out loans and not pay in hopes someone else will pay. It played out nicely with rent help during covid, too. The program only paid if you had a negative balance on your ledger, which was duly noted.
It’s good to play pretend poor in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?

It's like saying why is it fair to give billions in aid to a wealthy country like Israel when we have problems at home.

To your question, the issue of homelessness is one of the individual cities and states. And the reason it continues to be an issue isn't because of a lack of money poured into it.

Meh. Israel solved its homeless problem by taking Palestinian’s homes. Plus they still get all the US money

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because homelessness isn’t “I don’t make enough money to afford rent/a mortgage.” There are loads of people in that situation but they aren’t homeless. They live with family/friends or have a bunch of roommates, or live way far out from where they work, or worse case scenario, couch surf with friends, stay in motels, or live in their car. Or they can play by the rules of the shelter system until they can get into permanent housing.

People living on the street who are visibly homeless are mentally ill, on drugs, or alcoholics. Or all 3. Those problems can’t be solved by just giving the person an apartment.

Yes, it can. You have to give them an apartment. You have to give them food. You have to clean it for them. You have to provide them with drugs. And then, they will still accuse you of stealing from them because they won't attend any voluntary treatment program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?

I think you know the answer to that.
Homeless people generally don't vote. People with master's degrees do - and the research shows they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
That is your answer.

Very true. Medical debt for cancer patients, etc. should come first, especially for veterans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?

I think you know the answer to that.
Homeless people generally don't vote. People with master's degrees do - and the research shows they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
That is your answer.

Very true. Medical debt for cancer patients, etc. should come first, especially for veterans.

Just heard a report on NOR about student loan forgiveness. A woman was whiny that she had multiple degrees but could not pay off student loans because she was a drug addict and now an addiction treatment counselor. She wants her $100,000 in debt wiped out

She wrote Republican ad for the mid-terms

She is typical of addicts, including many homeless who want it all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?

I think you know the answer to that.
Homeless people generally don't vote. People with master's degrees do - and the research shows they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
That is your answer.

Very true. Medical debt for cancer patients, etc. should come first, especially for veterans.

Just heard a report on NOR about student loan forgiveness. A woman was whiny that she had multiple degrees but could not pay off student loans because she was a drug addict and now an addiction treatment counselor. She wants her $100,000 in debt wiped out

She wrote Republican ad for the mid-terms

She is typical of addicts, including many homeless who want it all

So one person represents all. Never change conservatives!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?

I think you know the answer to that.
Homeless people generally don't vote. People with master's degrees do - and the research shows they overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
That is your answer.

Very true. Medical debt for cancer patients, etc. should come first, especially for veterans.

Just heard a report on NOR about student loan forgiveness. A woman was whiny that she had multiple degrees but could not pay off student loans because she was a drug addict and now an addiction treatment counselor. She wants her $100,000 in debt wiped out

She wrote Republican ad for the mid-terms

She is typical of addicts, including many homeless who want it all

So one person represents all. Never change conservatives!

Actually she is representative of the many addicts I have treated for many years. You might want to learn more about addiction rather than treating it as laughing matter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish someone solved the homelessness problem though. Not by pouring money into yet another expensive housing project, but by building a path to involuntary commitment.
I support student loan forgiveness as well. I stopped putting money into my kid’s 529 once I heard the news. I didn’t believe they would actually write off the loans, but they did! It means they may do it again. So it’s better for him to take out loans and not pay in hopes someone else will pay. It played out nicely with rent help during covid, too. The program only paid if you had a negative balance on your ledger, which was duly noted.
It’s good to play pretend poor in this country.

You can’t involuntarily commit someone because they can’t afford a $2500/mo apartment plus utilities. Last I checked we still have a semblance of a Constitution. #MakeGulagsGreatAgain

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because homelessness isn’t “I don’t make enough money to afford rent/a mortgage.” There are loads of people in that situation but they aren’t homeless. They live with family/friends or have a bunch of roommates, or live way far out from where they work, or worse case scenario, couch surf with friends, stay in motels, or live in their car. Or they can play by the rules of the shelter system until they can get into permanent housing.

People living on the street who are visibly homeless are mentally ill, on drugs, or alcoholics. Or all 3. Those problems can’t be solved by just giving the person an apartment.

Yes, it can. You have to give them an apartment. You have to give them food. You have to clean it for them. You have to provide them with drugs. And then, they will still accuse you of stealing from them because they won't attend any voluntary treatment program.

You can do all those things, but addicts gonna addict. If they don’t trash the place and then end up on the street themselves, their addict friends will do it for them.

I’m in favor of bringing back involuntary commitment honestly. Bring back state mental hospitals. Some people have serious mental health needs that aren’t being met by a patchwork of this and that service and those are the people who end up literally on the street and who assault other people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish someone solved the homelessness problem though. Not by pouring money into yet another expensive housing project, but by building a path to involuntary commitment.
I support student loan forgiveness as well. I stopped putting money into my kid’s 529 once I heard the news. I didn’t believe they would actually write off the loans, but they did! It means they may do it again. So it’s better for him to take out loans and not pay in hopes someone else will pay. It played out nicely with rent help during covid, too. The program only paid if you had a negative balance on your ledger, which was duly noted.
It’s good to play pretend poor in this country.

You can’t involuntarily commit someone because they can’t afford a $2500/mo apartment plus utilities. Last I checked we still have a semblance of a Constitution. #MakeGulagsGreatAgain

Unless they are loitering, doing drugs and pooping in the open, unwashed.

[Anonymous]

Can the op really not see that homelessness is a completely different issue?
Comparison doesn’t even make sense

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t have to be an either/or. If it weren’t for Republicans blocking everything they can, we could make meaningful progress on both.