Homelessness vs. Student Loan foregiveness

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m against the student loan forgiveness.

As for the homeless I do not get why states don’t follow Texas and Arizona and just bus them to another state. Does not matter which one, just make them another states problem. That would be fun to watch play out.


Lots of municipalities already do this in the West. They send their homeless/mentally ill to California with a bus ticket. It’s been a big problem for decades.
Anonymous
Why can’t we do both, OP? That would be my answer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m against the student loan forgiveness.

As for the homeless I do not get why states don’t follow Texas and Arizona and just bus them to another state. Does not matter which one, just make them another states problem. That would be fun to watch play out.


Lots of municipalities already do this in the West. They send their homeless/mentally ill to California with a bus ticket. It’s been a big problem for decades.


Seems fair since California sucks up most of the water of the entire west.
Why did California think farming in deserts was a good idea?
Anonymous
Homelessness is very expensive to solve. There are multiple voucher programs but many recipients in DC get $2-4k/month indefinitely. there is no end point except for death. So you're talking $24-48k yearly for 20, 30, 50 years.
It's not a one time cost. that's a lot of money when you're talking housing thousands and thousands of people,
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?


It’s not a zero sum gain. But let’s play this game. Why is it a fair use of taxpayer money to subsidize home ownership by giving them a mortgage interest deduction? Why is it fair to provide a loophole to hedge fund managers for carried interest? Why is it fair to provide massive agricultural subsidies to corporations because Trump started a trade war with China?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m against the student loan forgiveness.

As for the homeless I do not get why states don’t follow Texas and Arizona and just bus them to another state. Does not matter which one, just make them another states problem. That would be fun to watch play out.


Lots of municipalities already do this in the West. They send their homeless/mentally ill to California with a bus ticket. It’s been a big problem for decades.


Seems fair since California sucks up most of the water of the entire west.
Why did California think farming in deserts was a good idea?


Now do Las Vegas. And Phoenix. And Tucson. … None if it was sustainable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m against the student loan forgiveness.

As for the homeless I do not get why states don’t follow Texas and Arizona and just bus them to another state. Does not matter which one, just make them another states problem. That would be fun to watch play out.


You mean California should just bus them to Arizona and Texas?


Is Texas bussing homeless people too or just illegals?


Someone crossing the border and presenting themselves to CBP for the purpose of asserting an asylum claim in accordance with US law is not here “illegaly.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?


It’s not a zero sum gain. But let’s play this game. Why is it a fair use of taxpayer money to subsidize home ownership by giving them a mortgage interest deduction? Why is it fair to provide a loophole to hedge fund managers for carried interest? Why is it fair to provide massive agricultural subsidies to corporations because Trump started a trade war with China?


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?


Homelessness is not about money. We spend money. We have programs. People care and try to help. It is more complicated.

Also of course it isn’t an either/or question so student loan forgiveness completely unrelated.

You are a political troll.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m against the student loan forgiveness.

As for the homeless I do not get why states don’t follow Texas and Arizona and just bus them to another state. Does not matter which one, just make them another states problem. That would be fun to watch play out.


You mean California should just bus them to Arizona and Texas?


Why not put them all on a train that never stops, like the film Snowpiercer?


/s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m against the student loan forgiveness.

As for the homeless I do not get why states don’t follow Texas and Arizona and just bus them to another state. Does not matter which one, just make them another states problem. That would be fun to watch play out.


Lots of municipalities already do this in the West. They send their homeless/mentally ill to California with a bus ticket. It’s been a big problem for decades.


Seems fair since California sucks up most of the water of the entire west.
Why did California think farming in deserts was a good idea?


Now do Las Vegas. And Phoenix. And Tucson. … None if it was sustainable.



Arizona has alfalfa farms! Alfalfa is one of the most water crops. Arizona is unsustainable period! I left because they talked about the looming water crisis since I was a kid in the 80s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it a fair use of tax payer money to forgive student loans for people making 100K when there are so many homeless people, people struggling to pay sky rocketing rents? What can be done for those who need help the most?


Isn't that the Republican way, to put groups of people in need in competition with each other.

Anonymous
Because Biden is trying to buy votes and most homeless don't vote.
Anonymous
Dumb thread.
Anonymous
Because homelessness isn’t “I don’t make enough money to afford rent/a mortgage.” There are loads of people in that situation but they aren’t homeless. They live with family/friends or have a bunch of roommates, or live way far out from where they work, or worse case scenario, couch surf with friends, stay in motels, or live in their car. Or they can play by the rules of the shelter system until they can get into permanent housing.

People living on the street who are visibly homeless are mentally ill, on drugs, or alcoholics. Or all 3. Those problems can’t be solved by just giving the person an apartment.
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