Quiet Quitting (not going above and beyond at work)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, it’s a better expression than “ lean in” or “lean out” which is all I was hearing pre pandemic.

I like the term quite quitting, and, I agree it’s not passive aggressive. The balance of power is so skewed against the worker, it’s just allowing them the mental power to set up work/life boundaries and to care less about work.

I have learned from the pandemic that I have to be mentally ready to quit or leave my employer at any time, even if I thought things world stay the same for many years. I should give less to them, because they will definitely give less to me, in a heartbeat.

But it's a negative term. Quiet implies the employee who isn't breaking their backs for the employer is being passive aggressive and quitting is negative - it implies they just gave up.

Why can't it be framed as, people have woken up and decided a job is a job, they give their best effort within reason but aren't willing to sacrifice their health and sanity to work tons of extra hours for no extra pay or recognition.

Boomers and GenX watch the Today show. They are shocked that the younger generations refuse to develop work stress related ulcers or heart palpitations.

[Anonymous]

Maybe some of you are like me. I just started quiet quitting but I don’t feel that bad about it.

I worked extremely hard, long hours during the pandemic. Took one for the team — as the company cut and never refilled positions.

This spring I hit my limit of do more with less. The company boasted a HUGE record breaking profit. The investor report to and press release to shareholders clearly broke down all the extra revenue earned.

Then the next day, they told all employees that they were making more cuts and we have to tighten our belts.

So they can suck it. If the shareholders and CEO (who gets paid only in stock) can buy new private jets while my team is down 10 positions and we are busting it 60+ hours a week at below market pay —-then I’m entitled to quietly quitting and turning off my computer at 4 pm.

That investor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, it’s a better expression than “ lean in” or “lean out” which is all I was hearing pre pandemic.

I like the term quite quitting, and, I agree it’s not passive aggressive. The balance of power is so skewed against the worker, it’s just allowing them the mental power to set up work/life boundaries and to care less about work.

I have learned from the pandemic that I have to be mentally ready to quit or leave my employer at any time, even if I thought things world stay the same for many years. I should give less to them, because they will definitely give less to me, in a heartbeat.

But it's a negative term. Quiet implies the employee who isn't breaking their backs for the employer is being passive aggressive and quitting is negative - it implies they just gave up.

Why can't it be framed as, people have woken up and decided a job is a job, they give their best effort within reason but aren't willing to sacrifice their health and sanity to work tons of extra hours for no extra pay or recognition.

Boomers and GenX watch the Today show. They are shocked that the younger generations refuse to develop work stress related ulcers or heart palpitations.

Gen X has LIVED this for the start. We shook our heads at the millennials, especially those in tech, who wanted to live at the office. When Gen X hit the workforce, there were a few places where the office looked like a clubhouse, but that whole eat-sleep-breath the office thing came about during the millennials' time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, it’s a better expression than “ lean in” or “lean out” which is all I was hearing pre pandemic.

I like the term quite quitting, and, I agree it’s not passive aggressive. The balance of power is so skewed against the worker, it’s just allowing them the mental power to set up work/life boundaries and to care less about work.

I have learned from the pandemic that I have to be mentally ready to quit or leave my employer at any time, even if I thought things world stay the same for many years. I should give less to them, because they will definitely give less to me, in a heartbeat.

But it's a negative term. Quiet implies the employee who isn't breaking their backs for the employer is being passive aggressive and quitting is negative - it implies they just gave up.

Why can't it be framed as, people have woken up and decided a job is a job, they give their best effort within reason but aren't willing to sacrifice their health and sanity to work tons of extra hours for no extra pay or recognition.

Huh? I think you have it backwards.
Boomers and GenX watch the Today show. They are shocked that the younger generations refuse to develop work stress related ulcers or heart palpitations.

Gen X has LIVED this for the start. We shook our heads at the millennials, especially those in tech, who wanted to live at the office. When Gen X hit the workforce, there were a few places where the office looked like a clubhouse, but that whole eat-sleep-breath the office thing came about during the millennials' time.

[Anonymous]

I’m in healthcare. Working in a high acuity hospital setting for the entire pandemic led me to a place where I now do the minimum amount necessary to ensure patient safety and deliver the standard of care.

The patient gets appropriate care that meets standard.

My colleagues and I are behaving no differently than all the examples in this thread - doing our job competently and doing no extra - but this is scandalous to people outside of healthcare. Meeting any and every request and expectation of a patient or family member, at any hour convenient to them is not actually a requirement of my job.

[Anonymous]

I started doing this when they mandated vaccines but still wouldn't allow me in the office. Sorry, that's way too much control over people's personal lives!

[Anonymous]

Boomers and GenX watch the Today show. They are shocked that the younger generations refuse to develop work stress related ulcers or heart palpitations.

Gen X has LIVED this for the start. We shook our heads at the millennials, especially those in tech, who wanted to live at the office. When Gen X hit the workforce, there were a few places where the office looked like a clubhouse, but that whole eat-sleep-breath the office thing came about during the millennials' time.

This. Please don't lump us in with Boomers and the whole "working 90 hours a week and loving it" culture. I'm exhausted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been doing this for years without such a negative label or any label at all, and what this should be is NORMAL.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, it’s a better expression than “ lean in” or “lean out” which is all I was hearing pre pandemic.

I like the term quite quitting, and, I agree it’s not passive aggressive. The balance of power is so skewed against the worker, it’s just allowing them the mental power to set up work/life boundaries and to care less about work.

I have learned from the pandemic that I have to be mentally ready to quit or leave my employer at any time, even if I thought things world stay the same for many years. I should give less to them, because they will definitely give less to me, in a heartbeat.

But it's a negative term. Quiet implies the employee who isn't breaking their backs for the employer is being passive aggressive and quitting is negative - it implies they just gave up.

Why can't it be framed as, people have woken up and decided a job is a job, they give their best effort within reason but aren't willing to sacrifice their health and sanity to work tons of extra hours for no extra pay or recognition.

Boomers and GenX watch the Today show. They are shocked that the younger generations refuse to develop work stress related ulcers or heart palpitations.

Gen X has LIVED this for the start. We shook our heads at the millennials, especially those in tech, who wanted to live at the office. When Gen X hit the workforce, there were a few places where the office looked like a clubhouse, but that whole eat-sleep-breath the office thing came about during the millennials' time.

I don’t know. Those Millenials in tech make $1Ms, I would go above and beyond and live at work for that! And it’s not even as awful or cut throat as BigLaw or Finance

[Anonymous]

Quiet quoting == Euro work ethic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a mid-level manager, putting in only what is required is probably the only way that any kind of lack of resources is going to get addressed. I’m surrounded by stressed out people, and it just isn’t healthy or sustainable. And when upper-level management thinks nothing of taking weeks to get back to us, why should I strive for better and better?

Absolutely could not agree more.

My DH was at this last company for 10 years. 60% of his team left during the pandemic and DH absorbed ALL of that extra work. For 14 months straight he worked 7am-6pm, came home for dinner and bedtime with the kids and then worked 8pm-2am. Plus most Saturday and Sunday nights. He fell into a horrible depression, was diagnosed with stress reactive disorder, had the be medicated. I finally said either you leave the job or I'm leaving you. He's been at his new job 6 months and anytime he goes to work after hours I remind him of my ultimatum. I wouldn't actually leave him, but he turned into an absolute shell of a human with ZERO recognition from the company, no raise, nothing. They had to see the timestamps on his emails every day- midnight, 1am, 2am, 6:45am. When he put in his two weeks. the VP literally said "dammit DH now I have to hire 3 or 4 people to replace your output".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a mid-level manager, putting in only what is required is probably the only way that any kind of lack of resources is going to get addressed. I’m surrounded by stressed out people, and it just isn’t healthy or sustainable. And when upper-level management thinks nothing of taking weeks to get back to us, why should I strive for better and better?

This. You don't get support to hire more people or deal with the issues if everything is getting done. Upper management has to see the impact.

[Anonymous]

No pride in yourselves. Do your job to the best of your ability, so you can be proud of your accomplishments. So many lazy people these days, it's no wonder this country is about to fall apart. Allowing yourselves to be locked down, becoming apathetic and fearful and easily controlled.... that's how you become enslaved. Everyone needs to grow up and stop whining and being offended, and get out there and work, and stop thinking that the government has your best interests at heart. Absolute power is in their best interest, not yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, it’s a better expression than “ lean in” or “lean out” which is all I was hearing pre pandemic.

I like the term quite quitting, and, I agree it’s not passive aggressive. The balance of power is so skewed against the worker, it’s just allowing them the mental power to set up work/life boundaries and to care less about work.

I have learned from the pandemic that I have to be mentally ready to quit or leave my employer at any time, even if I thought things world stay the same for many years. I should give less to them, because they will definitely give less to me, in a heartbeat.

But it's a negative term. Quiet implies the employee who isn't breaking their backs for the employer is being passive aggressive and quitting is negative - it implies they just gave up.

Why can't it be framed as, people have woken up and decided a job is a job, they give their best effort within reason but aren't willing to sacrifice their health and sanity to work tons of extra hours for no extra pay or recognition.

I completely agree.
Boomers and GenX watch the Today show. They are shocked that the younger generations refuse to develop work stress related ulcers or heart palpitations.

Gen X has LIVED this for the start. We shook our heads at the millennials, especially those in tech, who wanted to live at the office. When Gen X hit the workforce, there were a few places where the office looked like a clubhouse, but that whole eat-sleep-breath the office thing came about during the millennials' time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No pride in yourselves. Do your job to the best of your ability, so you can be proud of your accomplishments. So many lazy people these days, it's no wonder this country is about to fall apart. Allowing yourselves to be locked down, becoming apathetic and fearful and easily controlled.... that's how you become enslaved. Everyone needs to grow up and stop whining and being offended, and get out there and work, and stop thinking that the government has your best interests at heart. Absolute power is in their best interest, not yours.

What is your reaction to some of the threads above about the “take, take, take” on the part of upper management? Just live with that until you are sunk into your early grave?